VICE MagazineĀ : In Color ā Minorities experience in the Fashion Industry featuring Lizzy & Darlene Okpo of William Okpo ā Joshua Kissi and Travis Gumbs of Street EtiquetteĀ
Darlene and Lizzie Okpo
Ages: 28 and 24
Occupation: Designers of William Okpo
Hometown: New York, New York
Ethnicity: Nigerian-American
"Our experience in the fashion industry has always been a hot and cold situation. They pre-judge what and who we are. We are often seen as the designer sisters who do streetwear. We look at that and say, Our aesthetics can sometimes be no different than Carven or Alexander Wang, why are we streetwear and they are considered ready-to-wear? Even if they see the collection, they still consider it urbanwear even when it is full of suit jackets and flowy dresses.
"We grew up watching Martin and the character Shanana was a typical person we would see in our neighborhood. I find it so funny that now Vogue, who has been scared of that woman who shook her head and rolled her eyes, puts her in their editorials with baby hairs, Timberlands, and bamboo earrings. I felt like that was something that we were told, āYou better not do thatā because then we would be a stereotype. Then you see white men walking down the runway with du-rags. They think they are showing appreciation, but I see it as mockery because I couldnāt do it. If I do it, it is considered urbanwear. If they do it, it is considered art." - Lizzie
"In the beginning, we were two young Nigerian-American girls, and often we didnāt see people who looked like us. When we first started, we went to a factory and they thought we were the internsāand that still happens. I think the hardest part was going into a meeting or factory and really standing your ground and not fitting that stereotype that they do put on you, that we are urban. The biggest thing has been proving ourselves and itās heartbreaking.
"We are trying to be that positive energy for young girls. There arenāt a lot of programs that are fashion based, where you could just tell a girl who grew up in Bed-Stuy that she could be a fashion designer. [Blacks] have a lot of buying power, and we spend a lot of money, but we arenāt represented on the business side. Itās hard when you are the only one. I have so many girlfriends who can say the same thing: āI am the only black girl in this big company.ā You donāt want to talk about it, but sometimes you have to." - Darlene
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Joshua Kissi and Travis Gumbs
Occupation: Founders of Street Etiquette
Ages: 25 and 25
Hometown: New York, New York
Ethnicity: African and West Indian
"We created Street Etiquette because there wasnāt a voice for black culture in fashion as far as young men go, but at the same time we just needed to express ourselves. We didnāt come out saying this is the new black cultural perspective, but people labeled it that because it was something new and refreshing. Even in the way we research style, we look at West Indian, Caribbean, and African style and mesh that with what that would look like today in a modern way. I think combining different worlds and different aesthetics brought about a new culture.
"Youāll see now in different details in the fashion industry that people are borrowing things from minorities, specifically black culture like baby hairs, finger waves, du-rags, Air Force Ones, and Timberlands. These are all facets of different cultures, and black culture is being embraced by the fashion industry. It is much more concrete now, but before it was like they wouldnāt associate themselves with it. Everyone is inspired by something, but you also have to know where to draw the line." ā Josh
"I feel like a lot of the times when we have these conversations, they are more negative than positive. We already get discriminated against so much that if you are trying to enter into a field and you are a minority, you are already looked at in a certain type of way, so we created our own space. I donāt think the fashion world really embraced us with open arms. It was more of this new way that people looked at the internet and things to be inspired by, not so much whatās happening in fashion.
"My girl was telling me about this London brandās T-shirt that has a Jamaican man hanging from a tree and at the bottom it says āBatty Boy,ā which means gay in Jamaican. It is something political and the undertones are good because the [people wearing the shirts] are gay men, but they are also white. You canāt really do that. I think people in fashion have been notorious for that. Even if they think they understand it, they are too far removed from it." ā Travis
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Photos by Christelle de Castro
Styling by Miyako Bellizi
Makeup by Allie Smith
Words and interviews by Erica Euse