Art topic: reposting vs providing refs for commissions.
My previous post [here] was my attempt to explain how art theft happens on the roleplaying side of Tumblr. It has already been reblogged with commentary by others. A non-artist pointed something out that I want to explain.
I am not an artist. I can understand where this person is coming from when they talk about providing references for commissions from artists. However, they explain how they provide these references, which still follows under reposting and art theft since they only source without asking permission to repost.Ā
Reposting without permission.
Permission removes a lot of the trouble when it comes to art that is not yours.Ā
Asking an artist for permission and getting their expressed word (if they allow it) allows you to freely repost their work.
This is the safest way to do repost art without getting in trouble. Because reposting art (to share it or even use it as a reference for commission) means you are taking art from one website and posting it on another.
Not all artists want this to happen, especially without knowing about it.
It may take time for an artist to get back to you. From days to even months. They can be busy or they might not speak the language you speak. So never think not hearing back from them means you can repost and just source their work.
Sourcing does not count without permission.
Sourcing does not always provide where the original images can be found.
If you find an artwork on (Tumblr, DeviantArt, Twitter, or other legit sites that artists use) - then you have a better way to contact that artists for permission.
If you find an artwork on a more questionable site (i.g. Pinterest or We Heart It) - then you need to try and google search for where the original image is. Sometimes this doesnāt work, but that doesnāt mean you can just repost and source.
On Tumblr, it is very easy for people to remove the sources. So what you post could potentially be reblogged where the source is removed. And Tumblr allows most to trace posts back to who posted them (as long as the blog that reposted is not deleted). Thus, you can be in trouble for reposting stolen art (since you didnāt ask for permission) and putting everyone else who reblogged from you in trouble.
Ask this: Do you think it is worth the trouble when you can just ask for permission, even if you have to wait to hear back from an artist?
Reference for commissions.
Iām no stranger to this. A couple of my art friends have been kind enough to draw things for me based on refs that I provided via linking them to where I found my ref.
But there are safer ways to provide references without reposting!
A point in the commentary of my other post was that a lot of people do this. Sadly, they contribute to the problem of art theft when they repost art without getting permission first. Their actions are still wrong and seen as stealing, even if there is a source.
Artists are trying to explain why this is wrong. Conflict often starts because not everyone can explain this in the best ways for non-artists to understand completely. Especially when non-artists bring in other elements such as paying for commissions.
Itās simple. No one (artists or non-artists) should repost work that is not their own without permission. Sourcing does not count without permission given by the original artist.Ā
Otherwise, if permission is not given, anyone reposting art regardless if they source it means they are stealing that art which does not belong to them.
Here is one major way you can provide a reference for an artist without reposting the art.
Give the link (aka the source) to the artist that you are commission from.
Also, if you have a habit of just posting onto Tumblr, make use of Tumblrās link function. You can take the link and post it instead of the artwork itself.
Iāve mentioned that I am not an artist. So I want to say this to other non-artists, since I saw that this point was used as an argument against my last post. Maybe you can understand from a common ground.
Keep your views on commissions and how artists price their artwork separate from the whole of art theft and reposting.Ā
Honestly, they are two different topics. They are not the same thing.
You should not be using commissions and prices to explain why you steal art (in the form of reposting without permission given by the original artist) to provide ref for the art that you are paying for.
There are other ways to provide refs without reposting. There are ways to get permission if you want to just share art and help promote the original artist.
So, yes, I said in my other post that it is unacceptable to repost art even if you source it. Because source =/= permission by the artist to use their art for reposting or anything else.
If a non-artist is willing to take the time and effort into budgeting for commissions, then they should understand that another personās art that they use for reference had a lot of time, effort, and possibly money put into it, too.
If you are willing to pay for art, then you should not steal art by reposting it without permission for any reason.Ā