reject humanity, become dragon

An archetrope is an identity based on an archetype, trope or role which is present through all manners of culture. It could pull from video games, literature, theater, film and television, folklore and mythology, or history. This can range anywhere from jesters and nobility to final girls and redeemed villains. If it has social or cultural presence, it has a fair chance of being an archetrope.

Usually, an archetrope influences one’s self-perception. This can be in the form of embodiment (in which you are personified by this concept), presentation (shaping your appearance, behaviors or other lifestyle choices around this concept), principles (shaping your personal values or moral outlook around this concept), and any other personal quality you can think of. Furthermore, archetropy doesn’t follow a strict voluntary or involuntary framework. Oftentimes, the experience pulls from a diverse array of feelings and practices that ultimately shape one’s archetropy. You can find a little bit of everything in the process!

If you’re curious about learning more, I recommend reading the article on archetropy on Otherkin Wiki, reading @/mogai-corvidae’s coining post for the term archetrope and checking out Vyt’s presentation on archetropy from Othercon 2023!

That brings me to my archetropy. I have a good few archetropes. Some are informed by my hobbies and personal beliefs. Others are informed by my experiences as a fictional character. That said, there is one archetrope I embody the most.

I must preface this section with a warning: the following discusses unreality and intense experiences with psychosis. Read further at your own discretion.

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I'm curious about the way that kink develops in tandem with alterhuman identity and whether or not that has any notable influence on which ones are developed by whom. And Ideally I'd like to run a survey purely because the subject is fascinating to me but I do worry that it would come off as trying to know way too much personal info about people and/or meant to kinkshame which would absolutely not be the case.

If I did do a survey it would of course include people who simply. Have no kinks and/or do not participate in sex. And I'm leaning towards the inclusion of paraphilias as well for a broader range of data collection. I also would not be taking any names down to avoid potential data leaks/avoid myself being aware of who is taking the quiz.

I'm curious about the way that kink develops in tandem with alterhuman identity and whether or not that has any notable influence on which ones are developed by whom. And Ideally I'd like to run a survey purely because the subject is fascinating to me but I do worry that it would come off as trying to know way too much personal info about people and/or meant to kinkshame which would absolutely not be the case.

If I did do a survey it would of course include people who simply. Have no kinks and/or do not participate in sex. And I'm leaning towards the inclusion of paraphilias as well for a broader range of data collection. I also would not be taking any names down to avoid potential data leaks/avoid myself being aware of who is taking the quiz.

I'm curious about the way that kink develops in tandem with alterhuman identity and whether or not that has any notable influence on which ones are developed by whom. And Ideally I'd like to run a survey purely because the subject is fascinating to me but I do worry that it would come off as trying to know way too much personal info about people and/or meant to kinkshame which would absolutely not be the case.

If I did do a survey it would of course include people who simply. Have no kinks and/or do not participate in sex. And I'm leaning towards the inclusion of paraphilias as well for a broader range of data collection. I also would not be taking any names down to avoid potential data leaks/avoid myself being aware of who is taking the quiz.

Starseeds are anti-semitic/Nazis (https://www.philosophyforlife.org/blog/starseeds-nazis-in-space) so people are using your inclusion of starseeds as an excuse to exclude endogenic systems from the definition of alterhuman because “endos are just as harmful as starseeds”.

I just wanted to know your thoughts on this, not tryna accuse you of anything (/genuine). Sorry to pull you into this whole syscourse stuff!

Heya! Thanks for the ask! I really appreciate you reaching out.

Re: Starseeds: The term alterhuman was coined... ten? years ago now? And at the time, while I'm sure some circles were aware of potential issues with the concept of starseeds as you share, at the time the term was something used a bit more broadly, especially by divine and extraterrestrial identified individuals. I was not part of the starseed community, but I followed a lot of those who identified with the term on social media/especially Tumblr, as well as kept up with posts by self-identified (at the time) starseeds on various otherkin forums. I don't think most of those folks had an understanding of those roots of the term and instead were using it to describe a type of identity that we have other words for today.

I do think at the time I was on the fence a bit about it because I didn't have much info about it, but from the experiences I had it was describing something else. Perhaps a better way to phrase it now is "those with identities related to divinity or extraterrestrials."

I'm not the arbiter of what is or isn't alterhuman, but the idea of the term was not "here's a bunch of groups, by name, who are allowed", and more "hey I noticed a lot of groups of those with overlapping identities are fighting each other over stupid shit even though a lot of what they say and feel seem to be really similar, I wish there was some term that people could use as an umbrella to refer to their shared experiences rather than get mad at each other over precise terminology". I don't think that antisemitism is very conducive to understanding each other and our similarities and meaningful differences, so, if I were to remake the original post today, I would not include a concept like that. The original post was admittedly a frustrated reaction to infighting and I didn't, like, vet it with anyone else because I was annoyed and pretty much immediately after disappeared to go do college classes and came back a year later really confused to hear that people had actually taken to it.

That said... while I try to avoid syscourse here, I am not opposed to being clear when I have to be: the entire point of "alterhuman" is to have a term to unite those with similar experiences which fall outside of the socially accepted concept of humanity. Endogenic exclusion is inherently opposite to that idea. I've in many places and many ways gone on and on about my opinion on syscourse, but - while I understand the pain and frustration of disordered systems (we have DID, and are traumagenic, in case anyone is unaware,) there is no universe where "cruelty against Jews" is the same as "having a similar experience to a psychological disorder but with different symptoms".

But if there is one thing I have learned in all the years since the term alterhuman was created, it's this: while you can give others endless tools to connect and understand each other and their experiences, both similar and disparate, no terminology will ever reach the people who want to draw a line between themselves and others. "Endogenic" and "Traumagenic" exist because the terms that existed beforehand were not considered appropriate, and so "better" terms were created to help the community get along. "Alterhuman" was created because otherkin and therians and plurals and fictionkin etc etc were all fighting each other over terminology. Back then I barely ever saw anti-endo sentiments - I'm sure they existed, but not nearly like they do now. I'm not surprised people are trying to use starseeds being listed in the alterhuman coining post that I wrote in a frustrated huff listing any communities I could think of off the top of my head as I went to close tumblr for the night and go do my homework as a way to excise people - that sort of aggressive "us vs them"-ism was bound to crop up anyways.

I suppose, to those who are using the inclusion of starseeds to be exclusionary, maybe consider the following discussion questions:

What was the social landscape of what we now call the alterhuman community like at the time of the post's publishing?

What do you think the author's intention was when listing a wide range of communities and ideas, and do you think that the list was meant to be exhaustive, complete, or otherwise?

Why might a 19 year old college student not be aware of the intricacies of a till-then non-unified collection of identities?

Do you think my friends being scared of experiencing violence when existing in public while visibly Jewish is equivocal to someone saying they think they have more than one person in their head even though a doctor didn't give them the OK to think that?

Actually forget all the other discussion questions and answer the last one. If you answer wrong, I will become the evil alter.

dragons when you try to get away

In particular, “eastern”. When people thought of eastern dragon, they thought only of the East Asian serpentine chimeric sort that’s tied to water and wind, benevolent and deific.

But wait! People don’t seem to know or acknowledge, but that also have differences!

In China, the *long* dragon have **5** toes, Korea, the *yong* has **4**, and Japanese’s *ryuu/tatsu* has **3**!!

There are winged dragon in eastern culture, for example, yinglong from Chinese, Hai-Riyo from Japanese.

Did you know Naga is consider dragon or draconic?

- desert dragons rolling in sand to polish their scales

- dragons cleaning themselves like a cat

- frorest dragons finding a creek to jump into and splash around in

- strong, burly dragons ramming into trees and toppling them over to build a den

- hatchlings wrestling with their siblings, practicing their menacing roar

- dragons befriending smaller animals

- dragons with odd hoards; hoards of sticks and rocks, hoards of animal bones, hoards of old car wheels, hoards of tattered books

- old dragons who live on the beach and collect seashells

- dragons with long necks who eat like giraffes

- dragons digging deep holes in the ground and storing food for a later time

- massive groups of dragons, running together like wolves, helping each other and keeping each other company

- dragons breathing fire onto the floor of their cave to make it hot, and then sleeping on it

- dragons

-dragons are great

- slime dragon slithering across undergrowth, popping back up in various shape.

- mirage dragon going in and out of focus, blink and it is gone.

- snow dragon with their soft snow fluff, are those fine fur, or actual snow on them?

- dragons that have horns blossoming, stationary, large as mountains, and the flower petals flowing in the wind on top of their slumpering forms.

- massive creature of the depth, you can only watch as the giant eye open to stare. And as you back up, more and more of the creature came into form, a draconic behemoth with too long a body, glowing luminences trailing down the length of its body as if breathing.

- Sitting atop the ruins is a chimeric creature, with snake tail, massive wings, poweful arms, and a humanoid head. The dragon deity that guards this place.

- A bunch of tiny dragons scuttling about like little menance. Toppling pots and plants, small enough they can be scoop up with mugs, but far too fast.

- dragons that float around like balloons, the wings are but decorations.

- It’s hard to tell the matter this long serpentine dragons is made of, light particle dancing across it’s many scales? feathers? spikes?