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To that anon who sent that Julia characterisation ask in FEH - sorry i deleted your post :â(
Fallen!Julia doesnât really brings anything to the table, but with other 2? Oh naga.Â
hey i can re-use the screenshotsÂ
Regular!Julia first
My brother Julius, once very kind, turned into a twisted devil...
Then by that devil's hands, my mother...and my father... Oh, it's beyond anything!
Friendly reminder that âthat devilâ might have killed your mom and turned your dad in puppet ruler, but the one who killed Arvis wasnât Julius-Loptyr :
Julia resents Loptyr for what happened to Deedee and to Julius, but not for what happened to Arvis because, hey, Julius isnât the brother who killed Arvis :)
My brother Julius and I both inherited a special power through our lineage.
I...gained the ability to use the Book of Naga.
My brother...could take hold of a book of terrible darkness, and it turned him into a devil of a man.
Both of our fates were made merely because of lineage.
And this is what Iâm most miffed with.
Here, itâs as if Julia is saying that whatever happened Julius would have been possessed by Loptyr and she would have had to kill him. But thatâs forgetting her first lines, where Julius was a regular good boy before being Loptyfied. Does having Major Loptyr blood fates you to become a âdevil of a manâ? FE4... somehow asserts this. OTOH, it is made very clear in FE4 that Manfroy is the trigger who Loptyfied Julius. Without Manfroy and his evil book of doom, Julius would have remained Juliaâs kind bro.
Putting Manfroyâs machinations, desperation and 30 years of dedicated work under the âit was fate!â rug feels wrong. Humans do the shitty stuff in Jugdral, thereâs no âsorry, Fate said so!â joke card.
Also, the bolded part is odd, what fate is Julia talking about? Taking her HW or fighting against her brother? Because for the second part, since FE4 was Seliphâs fest, it is actually possible to end Julius with Seliph without using Julia or the Book of Naga, hell developerâs oversight or not, she can even die in the final map!
FE4 Julia thinks her fate is to fight, and she wonât run away. From her earlier lines during this chapter, she knows Loptyr isnât her brother anymore, Julius died when Manfroy gave him the book. So, in this chapter at least, thereâs no angst with âwhy must i fight my bro :â(â but determination to get rid of Loptyr.
What if I could succumb to what took hold of my brotherâbecome your worst enemy against my will?
You succumbed to Manfroy who plot-warped to plot-kidnap you when you had the stats to blow him away, and your dad plot-forgot to burn him to a crisp to save you and only gave you a circlet for your protection
Loptyr canât take hold of you, youâre not the compatible vessel! But apparently, Manfroy can, with the power of a berserk staff or whatever odd magic he used.
L!Julia, the Crusader of Light - wait isnât she sharing her broâs epithet??
Ah, I was just admiring the flowers... When we were young, my brother and I would play in the flower beds...
Iâm pretty sure this line was added in a mirror to Juliusâs line about crushing flowers
In the past, I've resented the crusader blood flowing through my veins... Yet, it gives me the strength to fight fate.
Okay where does this come from because it isnât in FE4 nor in FE5. Seriously?
Julia lashed out not at her âcrusader bloodâ flowing in her veins, but at Loptyr itself.
Also the âCrusader blood flowing through her veinsâ is her parentâs blood? Itâs a part of their identity (Arvis takes great pride in being Valaâs descendant and Deedee becomes the plot coupon of the game/Princess of Granvalle and her children save the world thanks to her Naga blood).
Now I understand. In order to face the great malice that threatens the world, this strength is necessary.
Hm, this sounds like Lissa in Edelâs FB - with this power (Naga) Julia wants to protect the world. I mean, why not? If only her base game gave her that role afterwards instead of turning her into a potted plant in the epilogue...
So yes, I think Juliaâs characterisation falls on the âmehâ spectrum in FEH, but I can understand, they only had 15 lines to work with in FE4 since Juliaâs such a non-entity and no one gives a crap about her.
Still, the âi hated my crusader bloodâ and âit was fate i had to fight juliusâ feels especially wrong, given how Julia made it clear and is the ONLY ONE in the game to call Loptyr out - Julius is dead, the person sheâs talking to is not Julius. Maybe I want to cling to a smallest thread of hope in Jugdral (lel) where if Manfroy died chocking in a pretzel, Julius would never have become possessed and lived his life happily as an imperial brat without Loptyr shenanigans.
Julia is the one to debunk the âJulius was fated to become a host of Loptyrâ myth, she is the one to explain how the possession happened :
Manfroy gave the book to Julius, Loptyr took control of his host. FE5 tries to bring more nuances like gradual possession or something like that, but as I understand it, FE8â˛s Lyonâs situation is call-back, even if Lyon was still in the meatsuit, the Demon King was here and was going to become the only driving force in the meatsuit with time.
Still, the Loptyr possession was the endgoal of Manfroyâs many machinations in the First Gen and the karmic retribution awaiting Arvis after his own machinations in the 1st gen.
So blaming it as âFate ! He had major Loptyr, it was bound to happen :)â feels really wrong.
now iâm not saying L!Julia lines were influenced by 3H, but she was released in late august 2019 so maybe... someone tried to connect two dotes on different astral planes?
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