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Hey!:) It only just occurred to me, but John doesn't just beat up Sherlock. He beats him up IN A MORGUE. Usually itās Sherlock who beats corpses in morgues. And Sherlock has been likened to a corpse by Molly just minutes earlier. So, basically Sherlock is almost a corpse in TLD. And the fact that John gives him his cane, means that Sherlock has taken Johnās place in the story. Which explains what John thought he was before he met Sherlock: a corpse. Part 1
Part 2 Also, by beating Sherlock, John himself takes Sherlockās place. Which shows us what Sherlock was before he met John: a man who beat corpses and who had conversations with imaginary people. (John talks to āMaryā; Sherlock talked to his skull.) Itās a role reversal that shows us what both of them were before they met each other. Anyway, Iām still not sure this scene in TLD actually happened. But at least this would explain it from a narrative-point-of-view.
Hmmm, interesting take on it, Lovely. Iām still really not believing that our John would ever hurt Sherlock to the degree we saw in TLD on purpose (I speculate that it was some form of brainwashing from Culverton which caused John to disassociate from his doctor persona).Ā Iām also viewing the handing off of the cane as Johnās regret for his actions, and already in his own pit of depression, I really do feel like John was saying goodbye for good... I do believe there was an underlying subtext that while Sherlock was high as a kite, he was missing how depressed John was, especially with all the talk of suicide and with the visual parallel of Faith to John (and once again I think Sherlock was subconsciously picking up on John being suicidal again, but he hadnāt picked up on it on the surface).Ā He was guilt-ridden, didnāt feel like he was who anyone wanted him to be, and generally lost a lot of his identity for one reason or another. I think he had become sad and scared, and his guilt for beating Sherlock was the final nail. He gave the cane back as a way to say goodbye for good, because he thinks that Sherlock is better off without him, that he himself is unlovable and unworthy of love.
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Itās almost as if Billy is now finally heeding Mr Gatesā advice from s1ep1. Back when Gates told him to restrain the Captain, Billy pretty much freaked out and replied that Flint never listened to him. Now Billy has grown so much as a character that he doesnāt care whether Flint listens to him or not, he restrains him anyway.:)He takes what he wants now and doesnāt wait for Flintās approval,
Yes, Billy's finally heeding Mr Gates' worlds, and yes, Billy has definitely grown, and yes, Billy takes what he wants without Flint's approval. Ā But alas, that was a really really bad timing to assert his opinion and his decision was shortsighted. (At the 4-01, Flint was the shortsighted one, though.)
Anyways, I'm so so happy that Billy's grown so much and being his own man!
Dear Steph! Roses are red/ and John is blue. Jim is not dead / and goes āChoo-choo!ā Mycroft does barf/ but not into the scarf/ that his brother is wearing/ just as Eurus is pairing/ herself off with dear Jim/ on a whim. (Pretty grim!) But in case you still shake/ this whole story is fake!...But what IS Johnās objective? Why, to finally snog a consulting detective! To give us a story as happy and gay/ as I wish you to have for St. Valentineās day! :)
AWWW Thanks Sage!!! :D DITTO TO YOU TOO!! :D
So, John's subconscious in TLD has Mary's face, whereas Sherlock's subconscious has John's voice, right? (See TEH when Sherlock was constantly hearing John's voice.) Could that be a deliberate parallel Moftiss included there? A detail that tells us that as early as TEH, Sherlock was already essentially seeing John as more than just a love interest or even boyfriend? He was seeing him as a spouse.
ASDFASD And given that they DELIBERATELY made Mary look like Sherlock for ALL the promos AND throughout the episodes, that we are ABSOLUTELY supposed to subconsciously associate the two of them together. Though I am absolutely convinced that John hallucinated Sherlock for the two years he was gone, so thereās that too :D
But yes, I think Sherlock has forever seen John as his partner in every way. Itās heartbreaking, but beautiful
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Hey!:) Have you, by any chance, seen meta on why John wanted to name his daughter Catherine? I keep wondering about that, and the only thing I can come up with is that St. Catherine is one of the few saints that probably didn't exist. Many saints were at least actual historical figures (even though you kinda have to take their miracles on faith). But with Catherine, you have to take her existence itself on faith. Nobody knows if she ever existed. Dunno if there's something else, though.
(Part 2) Oh, and Catherine is also the patron saint of archivists, scribes and stenographers. Makes sense that John, the blogger, saw his daughter as a future protector of him and his blog about Sherlock (ie, the narrative in general). Also, Catherine is the patron saint of dying people, which might be Moftiss way of messing with us and foreshadowing the fact that TFP is John's hallucination after being shot. Especially since we see John conjuring up her image at 221B as he's dying.
Hi Lovely!
I actually havenāt seen any meta specifically relating to this. I thought perhaps it was the name of one of Johnās relatives that he actually liked / cared about, but yeah, itās never stated why the name is wanted by John.
But thank you for some interesting entomology about the name! Wowee.
What if John isn't grieving Mary, but Rosie? The feelings are real, but he's been TD12ed to believe they are for Mary. In reality, he's lost his child. Somehow. It would explain why his wife and baby share a name. Hitting and kicking Sherlock is very OOC if it's 'cause of his grieving Mary. If there's a connection to Rosie's death, maybe less so. It would also explain why Rosie seemed to disappear post TST. - Anyway, thank you for answering all these questions. You're blog is a lovely place. :)
Hi Lovely!
Honestly, anything is possible at this point, to be honest. S4 had a lot of mischaracterizations and a lot of inconsistencies and shirking of theĀ ārulesā that they developed in S3. I do believe that most if not ALL of S4 is either some sort of mirror-verse, mind palace, hallucination or unreliable narrator story, as the ārealityā of it is constantly being questioned by all of us.. But yes, I more see John getting upset about the death of a baby more than Mary... especially after theĀ āforgivenessā of her in HLVĀ and the reveal of the HLV scriptĀ characterizing Mary as satanicĀ but they end up giving her a redemption arc... it doesnāt make any sense.Ā
Something is very suspicious to me, is all Iām saying.
Sorry to bother you again. But Bible references (and art references) are kinda my thing. So, since I saw something about John losing his eye on your blog today: Itās from the Bible. And guess where from: The Gospel of MARK! I see you laughing, Mark Gatiss.:D āAnd if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell.ā This is about coming to Jesus āwith one eyeā (meaning: being sincere../Part 1
Part 3/...whereas the eye youāre supposed to cast aside is the one that sees only earthly things. And then thereās also a part in the Hebrew Bible. In the āSong of Songsā. Yep, that erotic love poem.:) Where the groom tells his beloved bride that she has ravished/wounded his heart with āone eyeā. The bride BTW is referred to as a āsisterā, with the words āsisterā and āspouseā being used for the same person and entwined like this: āsister-spouseā. (So, John really is Eurus in TFP, right?)
(referencing this meta)
LOVELY!! I never received a Part 2, so Iām sadly just posting these two, which are interesting bits on their own! LOL.
But yeah, Sherlock uses a lot of biblical imagery within the series, so I donāt think itās much of a stretch to think assume there are other, lesser known ones!Ā
I donāt really know how much more I can comment on this since the middle bit is missing D: BUT! Yes, I love theĀ āJohnās shot in the eyeā theory, since there is a lot of supporting evidence for it but again, like blind theory, we could have just been creating an awesomer story than the one we ended up with :/
Also, for me, in Johnās TAB theory, Eurus is the equivalent of Moriarty in Sherlockās MP ā the part of himself that John fears he could be or the part he keeps restrained. So yes, in a way, he is Eurus, just like Sherlock is Moriarty.
