Who wants to bet that the third descender is gonna be another kaslana because that would be funny and look
That kid looks exactly like them. The third descender is from space so they definitely can be related.
According to lore the third descender choice to go and ask the primordial for permission to marry the tsaritsa knowing that if he didn’t she probably would. He basically sacrificed himself
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There are seven gnosises (gnosies? Idk) which are the seven fragments of the third descender.
Dottore split his soul into seven (one main and six segments, as far as we know for sure). The Omega segment split his final seventh into two fourteenths, which were reunited in irmansul, but he commented that a soul could be no further reduced.
Dottore was experimenting with removing himself from the control of "fate", i.e. creating/ becoming a "false descender".
I'm not massively sure what to do with this information, but I do have two conclusions and one question.
If a 14th is the smallest you can make a soul and still have it able to act as an individual, then it's possible that a gnosis can be split in two and still function.
If Omega is a seventh of a soul and the pyro gnosis is also a seventh of a soul, there is a possibility that one surviving being burnt alongside Irmansul that the other could as well. Inversely, both could be completely destroyed which might put a spanner in the works for the Tsaritsa. However, the gnosis being that of a descender and therefor unaffected by Irmansul does give it a better chance of survival than Omega.
If a 14th can function independantly, then why put both pieces into Irmansul? (I should rewatch various cutscenes to try and wrap my head around this, but watching them gives me a stomach ache).
I wonder if it's a power thing, but he was such a hassle in Nod-Krai that a 14th is clearly not to be sniffed at.
Maybe it's more that he didn't want to be more than one person again, and the "backup" copy in the bank was there just in case the plan of entering irmansul through death didn't work.
Okay wait, also, if the gnoseis are each a 7th of the Thrid Descender, does that not mean that he could be revived with just one gnosis?
Since these thoughts are already quite disjointed, I'll add one more thing, which is just personal opinion- Dottore (that is, the Omega segment) died on his own terms. So if he does come back, he won't be the one pulling the strings. I hope it's the Tsaritsa. I hope she's so fucking ✨normal✨ about her barbies.
since the tsaritsa has something going on with ronova (shade of death) and rhinedottir (sinner associated with life + fused with shade of life), would it be too "fixated on the descender childe theory" of me to say that my theory is that she's trying to revive saarelainen/historical ajax/the 3rd descender
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Ok my theory about Tsaritson potential dad and fate is that he is the child of the Tsaritsa and the third descender! A lot of people seem to assume that he died or froze 500 years ago but that isn't necessarily true.
Spoilers for 6.6 but Dottore believes that the Third was erased for violating one rule and in the video, you see them being erased by Renova but also, the side the kid is on then gets erased. That plus the fact that this seems to be before Snezhnaya completely froze makes me think that the photo was taken closer to 3000 years ago and that the Tsaritsa memory of her lover and son was erased and she got them back 500 years ago when she became an archon and got the gnosis.
This makes her personality change that Venti talks about make sense plus explains why she lost all love
The thing that drives me nuts about genshin lore is that under a purely mythological standpoint, the third descender and Nibelung should be the same person. Especially considering the Harbingers being named after Carnival masks.
Nibelung is Saturn. Period. I'm 100% sure of this. Carnival is a mix of Saturnalia and Navigium Isidis.
Saturnalia is about the cyclical rebirth of the original king Saturn at the end->start of a cycle. And the Tsaritsa wants to kickstart a new cycle.
Navigium Isidis on the other hand is about putting back together the dismembered body of Osiris to revive him. Like you know, Saarelainen. Osiris is also a god of order that can be associated with Saturn.
The third descender taking a trip from the underworld to get back to his wife after she summoned him Back into existence
The tsaritsa is Penelope and she desperately trying to protect her son and people from the power hungry fae lords who want to marry her to become the king
Of course the kid is Telemachus and yes he is threatening to stab his mother suitors and yes no one is taking him seriously
Ronova as Poseidon because it fits too well. She is the 1# hater of that relationship AND Saarelainen. She’s GOING to make that trip take 100,000 years
I guess maybe Childe or rhinedottir is teaching the kid how to properly stab the suitors
All of this is a excuse to say I need those two to sing “I will fall in love with you again”