Members-Only Snippet of Ben Edlund Interview on Supernatural Then and Now
Rob: We got this question we’ve been avoiding because it’s a lot of words, but... when Castiel's talking to Dean in the truck about being human, the line that was aired is a different line than the script reads.
Ben Edlund: Sure.
Rob: So, the line that's aired is, Castiel says, “Except I used to belong to a much better club and now I’m powerless, I’m hapless, I’m hopeless. I mean, why the hell not bury myself in women and in decadence, right? It’s the end, baby, that’s what decadence is for. Why not bang a few gongs before the lights go out? But then, that’s just how I roll.” But the script reads, “But instead we become this. The only thing, I think, we have left, Dean and me, is each other. If Dean says it’s time to go out in a blaze of glory, win or lose, so be it. I’m in... but then, that’s just how I roll.” It’s an interesting little difference.
Rich: Well, somebody had to rewrite that, right?
Ben Edlund: Sure, I mean, like, that was either a rewrite based on a note, or something that— it’s possible that there was a shift in language that came from a pass through Kripke. To me, that feels like a rewrite based on, “Okay, we know what the subtext is, bury it a little bit.” Right?
Rob: Gotcha.
Ben Edlund: Because, you know, it’s more interesting to know that and then have language kind of be less to the core. I mean, maybe not, sometimes you really want to go to that core. But it didn’t seem necessary in that moment because look at the larger context. It's: this guy is still hanging around. He’s going on the mission. And previously, in the prior scene, when he’s kind of — when we used the word "insouciant" for the first and last time in Supernatural’s history, I believe... unless it gets quoted later in 15 seasons & I missed that — at that point, he is totally ride or die with Dean. He’s basically, “You say we're going on a suicide mission and there’s no hope or whatever,” and Dean’s going, “Yes, that’s what I’m saying,” and he goes, “Okay, well, let me go get the truck.” And so, in a sense, it was like — I would’ve done the same thing today, if that makes sense. Looking at the whole.Â
Rich: Right.
Rob: I like the idea of burying it more, not serving it on a platter there. Letting people —Â
Ben Edlund: Mainly because all the other aspects of that story tell us that. Show us that, actually. That’s the whole thing. Show us, not tell us... (quips) I heard that at some kind of seminar.
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