loved your thoughts about talia <3 how about mia dearden and/or rose wilson next? š
favorite thing: her motormouth lmao, sheās *so* funny and such a fast talker, I love how she figured out Ollie was Green Arrow in like five seconds flat; I love that sheās a survivor in such a specific and defiant way;
OTP: I primarily ship Mia with women, even though sheās canonically shown as interested in men. I do think sheās bi, but I also think the particular combination of trauma and comphet that sheās dealing with means that sheās not likely to figure it out until she goes off to college. And also stops projecting romantic/sexual interest onto any man whoās (a) remotely nice to her and/or (b) older than her, which I think is going to take her time.
Rose: they have a lot in common okay? Theyāre both ābadā victims, their intros to the Teen Titans are parallel, I suspect Johnās was trying to do a bad victim Rose vs. good victim Mia thing with the way he wrote it but I. donāt subscribe to that dichotomy. This shipās canonical basis is their two entire interactions- Rose defending Mia at Lianās funeral and the little banter interaction in TT03 99-100. Itās implied that Rose and Mia were Titans together during the timeskip but itās not actually on panel, but I think they were friends.
Cassie: I really really hate that their primary arc is Robin 146-147 bc that is in my opinion Miaās worst showing in preboot, that said here is a compilation of just their interactions and I do think the issues are worth reading just for their dynamic. Mia and Cassie wouldāve been the only two girls on the Titans during Miaās primary Titans run - however while I do see potential in the ship I donāt think that anything wouldāve happened during this time as I donāt think Mia was interested in dating on the team due to wanting to be taken seriously, I donāt think sheād figured out her bisexuality yet, and meanwhile Cassie was in her era where she was wildly overcompensating and leaning into comphet (the only way I can reconcile Cassie in tt03 with her prior iteration/presentation).
Steph: Steph is actually in the arc where Mia is introduced, although they never interact, so thereās parallels between the two of them are intentional. Iāve read some good Stephmia fic as well. Itās not my main ship for either of them but itās got potential.
NOTP: No one actually ships this to my knowledge but the romantic/sexual interest Beast Boy canonically addresses towards her is *so* gross! Heās older than her/that entire generation of Titans in general and he very much reads as creepy college guy hanging around high schoolers which is true to life but deeply upsetting (itās also crucially *not* how Vic Stone, the other Titan from Dickās generation who remains on the team in a mentorship role, interacts with the teens). Garfield Logan is the worst to Mia and the others (and the narrative rewards him for it by giving him Ravenā¦)
Digger. Again, I donāt think anyone actually ships this but it is her canonical relationship. And it very much fits the pattern of Mia showing interest to any guy who she reads as remotely interested, particularly guys who are a bit older. I see it as equal parts trauma response and genuine interest, and I donāt think sheās going to look all that kindly on him when sheās his age if that makes sense.
The batboys. I keep seeing her shipped with various batboys (Jason *and* Tim) and I honestly don't see it. My thoughts on Seeing Red are um. Complicated, but I don't tend to go in a romantic direction with Jason and Mia even in specific AU situations where they reconcile; and I genuinely think Mia's appearances in Robin 1999 are bad enough that it's soured me on her entire dynamic with Tim.
BROTP: the entire arrowfam and the way they come together to support her forever and ever amen I donāt have a lot to say about it but I want to single out
Roy - Mia as successor to the Speedy legacy and all that involves, I donāt love that thereās never been canonical follow-up to their Rise of Arsenal falling out (so Iām writing it) but I love the complexity
Connor - this is possibly my actual favorite nonshippy Mia dynamic okay their garden conversations and island training and just. yeah
Emiko - I talked about their parallels and potential here and also here
Unpopular opinion: I think the bisexual headcanon is unpopular? Itās all either sheās a lesbian and her canonical interest in men is only comphet and trauma or sheās straight given the lack of canonical interest in women, both of which I do understand but I tend to split the difference here. As far as Seeing Red goes - the fic plan is for Mia and Jason to end up on a team together briefly, spar, she beats him, and thatās that.
A random headcanon: Mia got really into beading at one point and the entire arrowfam ended up with stacks and stacks of friendship bracelets; Mia bejeweled both her converse and her quiver; Mia is on prazosin for PTSD night terrors, although she doesnāt take it often due to being out most of the night as Speedy. Mia was revealed to find that at a certain level of exhaustion the dreams donāt come even without the meds.
Song I associate with them: Twinkle Lights by The Sonder Bombs
Favorite thing: my beautiful princess with a disorder I love her so much. Knight terrors is the comic ever and I loved watching her protect her younger self from their father and just. Sheās become someone she needed and itās beautiful.
Least favorite thing: DC keeps doing the setup for really interesting Rose arcs and then not following through. She found out Lillian was alive and then the reboot happened; the Willow arc deserved a followup; the Stormwatch stuff got a setup arc and no continuation. What is going on with all of her relationships, where did they *go*? like, she hasn't interacted with Eddie, Cassie, Mia, Amy Sue, Roy, since the nu52; she hasn't interacted with Tara, Dick, the Defiance team, or *Joey* since the Priest run (has Joey been in *anything* since Priest? I am not counting the fantasy world cameo in DeathstrInc and I donāt remember him being in Shadow War when the Wilsons were being targeted by the LoA - now Iām sad. If Joeyās not in the new Deathstroke series soon I might actually cry); she hasn't interacted with Steph after Man Who Stopped Laughing or Cass since DCeased Unkillables (and calling that an interaction is stretching it even accounting for the elseworld). is there some informal rule that says she's only allowed to have lasting interactions with Slade, Wintergreen, Jason, and Damian? Like, yes, those are compelling dynamics but genuinely where did the rest of her relationships *go* - also why does DC keep saying she's still 17/18 that makes no sense.
Cassrose: and they were narrative foils ohmygod they were narrative foils. Their daddy issues roadtrip could be so good if it was good. I want them to be slightly unhinged about each other and trust each other just the same.
Stephrose: theyāve interacted one time, in Man Who Stopped Laughing. Rose has canonically called Steph āthe cute Batgirlā and asked for her number so thereās actually a basis for this one. They have so much potential and DCās only scratched the surface
Bonus points for poly Stephcassrose, even more bonus points if you throw Harper Row into the mix. (I am the only person whoās done that as of this writing - Iām mildly obsessed with stephcassharper *and* stephcassrose so I decided to do both in the same fic.)
Harper Row: Iāve written the only solo Rose/Harper fic on AO3 and at some point itās hopefully getting a sequel (that would also end up Stephcassharperose - I am nothing if not predictable) so this one is kind-of cheating but itās a fun hypothetical- Cullen & Harper are glorious complicated siblings with a dead mom and daddy issues, Rose & Joey are glorious complicated siblings with a dead mom and daddy issues so theyād definitely have things to talk about.
Cassie Sandsmark: fresh hell making Cassie Roseās hallucinated conscience insured that I would never be normal about them. I donāt really have anything to add here but their antagonism is way more interesting as flirting than as genuine hatred.
Eddie: theyāre very sweet okay (and I am way more interested in Jayrose with Eddie involved). I find it interesting how differently Rose interacts with Eddie as opposed to the men sheās actively flirting with . Thereās a genuineness thatās not present in most of her flirtation, which I tend to read as a defense mechanism
Tara: again, narrative foils. So much of the tension in Roseās run on the Titans is defined by the obvious Tara comparison. Slade compares them, the Titans compare them, Rose draws the initial comparison herself. āRose, still a virgin?ā is such an opening line for their first on page meeting. I want to see where their dynamic could go.
Honorable mention: Cissie King Jones or Anita Fite, who she hasnāt actually interacted with in canon but I think it would add an interesting layer to the Cassierose dynamic if Rose stole one of Cassieās girls, Cissie probably makes more sense but I miss Anita and will take any excuse to include her
Joey: SIBLINGS SIBLINGS SIBLINGS even in nu52 theyāre protective of each other I love the two of them and the strains of familial affection theyāve crafted and how no matter how complicated it gets (Rose killing Ćtienne, Joey going evil) theyāre still there for each other 100%.
Jason: honestly Jayrose is here for me. I tend to write them as "could be platonic or romantic" and she has been flirting with him since post-crisis (tt03 47, where she also holds him at knifepoint), but mostly I want them to be friends. I like the headcanon that they start a bar fight together every Fatherās Day. I wish canon didnāt default to āand theyāre married with 2.5 kidsā quite so often because I do think theyād get along well. I liked Rose borrowing Jasonās car and cat hoodie in this weekās Deathstroke
Dick: Dick and Roseās dynamic itās important to me okay he *got her out* she trusts/looks up to/flirts with him because heās safe and thatās the only thing she knows to do (the same way Mia does with the Arrowfam men actually, more parallels), heās in his asshole mode but heās still so good with her.
Shado: Shado in Deathstroke 2016 isā¦not my preferred characterization for her but the potential is there and partially realized by Stormwatch. Their weird push-pull mentorship dynamic is so great. Forever mourning that we didnāt get a full Stormwatch run with them.
Honorable mention: Damian, Respawn, Lorena Marquez (they should be friends), Amy Sue Allen (their mutual hatred society could be so great in the hands of a better writer), the rest of Team Defiance (Tanya and Wallace), Raven (they have a lot of shared experiences and I want them to Not Talk about it)
rosetim. I don't acknowledge teen titan 35.
Conner Kent: ohmygod we get it heās sooooo desirable sheās flirted with him in multiple continuities and I genuinely donāt give a fuck
unpopular opinion: I wish DC would let her have her eye patch back, I know that arc is messy as hell but I don't like when characters have disabilities erased? I'm also firmly of the belief that Slade sexually abused her and that's only partially because I'm projecting my own survivorship onto her. I think it's very much supported by canon.
random headcanon: Rose embroiders designs on her eye patches. Her favorite has a rose design. She embroidered a patch for her father for his birthday one year - she doesn't know if he got it, she's never seen him wear it, but he did and he keeps it in a safe with his most prized possessions.
Song I associate with her: Twinkle Lights by The Sonder Bombs
(Iām using the same song for both of them because they *both* deserve to scream out āIām fucking allowed to fucking say no!ā)