Normally the noncon whole species subjugation thing in hdg is off putting to me, but after 75 million Americans proved they were fascists, maybe plant doms don't sound too bad anymore.
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Perhaps he needed to get better at seeing his life for what it was. Better at accepting things and trying to worry less about how he seemed to others. The source of his unhappiness was that he had an overdeveloped capacity for imagining what other people thought and allowing this to change him.
He knew he was thinking too much about himself.
Been a long day and coming to terms with my life as a whole. So many questions running in my head. So many things that need finished. I need to start making things right
just had a Thoughtâ˘Âš. â¨Reader discretion is advisedâ¨, AKA read at your own risk and hate will be blocked.
š based on conversations with my ex-Mormon friends & Christian friends, & my attempts to understand and reassure them
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Âżwhat if suffering is the worst sin? Âżwhat if building a life that brings you joy is the ticket to heaven?
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in more detail:
Âżwhat if causing suffering of any kind unto others is the worst sin? Âżwhat if letting your suffering hurt other people is the worst sin?
Âżwhat if telling everyone theyâre sinned and doomed to hell is enacting the worst sin? Âżwhat if telling children they are unholy and sinners is the worst sin? Âżwhat if âholyâ wars are the worst sin?
Âżwhat if being âkindâ and âcharitableâ only for status or out of fear of eternal punishment is a sin?
or even.... Âżwhat if forcing yourself to eat something you donât want to is a sin? Âżwhat if submitting to âthe grindâ is a sin? Âżwhat if complacency is a sin?
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in reverse, Âżwhat if joy is the ticket to heaven? Âżwhat if going on that trip you wanna go on is the ticket to heaven? Âżwhat if being kind just to be kind & for no personal self-gain is the ticket to heaven?
Âżwhat if telling people they are sacred and holy and loved (truly loved, for who they are & not in spite of it) by God is the ticket to heaven? Âżwhat if telling children that (because Jesus died for their sins) they are protected and holy just for being alive?
Âżwhat if knowledge, and wielding it wisely is the ticket to heaven? Âżwhat if the lesson of Adam and Eve was to remind us of what was sacrificed to bring knowledge to us, making knowledge itself holy and of God Himself?
Âżwhat if the lesson of Lucifer the Devil is not to fear him but to love his complexity and embrace him as Godâs son? Âżwhat if God told the tale of his fallen son to remind us all to love our children dearly? Âżwhat if God was sharing his deepest regretâ that he did not love his son as deeply as Lucifer needed?
Âżwhat if the tale of Abraham and Isaac is to remind us that your children are just as important as God? Âżto show us that loving and protecting your loved ones is, in fact, to love God Himself?
Âżwhat if kindly alerting the waiter/waitress or server that something is amiss (you received the wrong food, or itâs cold when it should be warm, or the cooks / preparers forgot to add or remove an ingredient, or etc.) is a ticket to heaven? Âżwhat if revolution and standing up for what you believe in is a ticket to heaven? Âżwhat if using your voice is a ticket to heaven? Âżwhat if using your privilege to protect others is a ticket to heaven?
Âżwhat if self-love and self-respect are a ticket to heaven?
Âżwhat if love and respect and unity are holy and lead to heaven, but hate and division and ignorance and complacency lead to hell?
Âżwhat if the reason itâs a staircase to heaven is because you have to evolve and heal and grow as a person, to resist and re-evaluate instinctual feelings (and written languages, and spoken languages, and thoughts) before acting upon them, and that takes a lot of work?
Âżwhat is the whole point is to show God you are willing to work on yourself and build connection with others before you are allowed into his home and around his children (angels, beloved pets, and other deceased souls)?
Âżwhat if itâs a highway to hell because you can stay complacent and blind and are easily manipulated (highway hypnosis), and because you can hurt animals and people easily, and because youâre on autopilot and instinct and thoughtless power saving mode, all of which are easy and require very little from you?
Âżwhat if itâs a highway to hell because you can crash blindly through wilderness, through homes, through living beings, and hardly notice a bump in the road? Âżwhat if mindlessness and carelessness are the fuel (gas, battery power, etc.) to drive to hell?
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ÂżDo you hear me? ÂżDo you understand?
(Also semi seriously, Âżshould I start a branch of Christianity / a church based around this concept, with its own commandments that are freeing and gentle and loving?)
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Time-traveling JGY to right after his dad asks him to kill NMJ, he decides to do things the opposite way to the first time so he sulks around looking pale and sad for a day or two then allows his two sworn brothers to drag out of him what his dad asked him to do.
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First order of business: donât underestimate Nie Huaisang, Jin Guangyao decided when he figured out that the bizarre talisman heâd found that promised to abrogate his greatest regrets had actually somehow implausibly worked and he was back in the past.
Back at the right point in the past, no less â heâd spent a considerable amount of time meditating in front of Nie Mingjueâs head and wondering what would have been the right point to have changed things, and heâd settled on here and now. The point at which heâd already defeated Wen Ruohan and earned back his name, ceremony completed and everything sealed, but before his âfamilyâ demonstrated how little they thought of him, before heâd sealed his fate by killing Nie Mingjue and losing himself to his familyâs schemes forever.Â
The time when heâd already broken Nie Mingjueâs trust once, and thought heâd lost it forever.
Heâd been an idiot, of course.
Heâd seen Nie Mingjueâs harshness and assumed it was hatred; heâd listened to his scolding and thought it was disdain; heâd thought that Nie Mingjue had sworn brotherhood with him for the sole purpose of humiliating him, when of course it was only that Nie Mingjue had already shifted over to thinking of him as family and didnât actually know what to do with family when he wasnât lecturing them.
Such a waste.
He had considered going back to before â to the time before heâd murdered a man and lost Nie Mingjueâs trust the first time, because nothing that was broken could ever be returned to how it was originally, but that was far too risky. What if him having never left Nie Mingjueâs side meant that they failed to defeat Wen Ruohan? Wouldnât it all be for nothing, then?
Not to mention the personal inconvenience â heâd lived through war and spying once, and he had no interest in going through it again, thank you â and besides heâd already gotten used to the name Jin Guangyao. Itâd be such a bother to have to reaccustom himself to something else if he had to obtain through some other means the name that he had promised his mother on her deathbed that heâd get, and who knew if those other means might lead to some other break with Nie Mingjue.
He deserved for it to be Jin Ziyao, of course, but since when had anything happened the way heâd deserved? Since when did he ever get anything in his life that he didnât have to scheme for and fight for?
Except perhaps for Nie Mingjueâs affection, that first time.
Oh, heâd schemed to get his attention all right. On his way to Qinghe, heâd listened at every campfire he could, gathered information and rumor about what Sect Leader Nie â the most open-minded of the sect leaders when it came to accepting talent regardless of origin â liked and disliked, and using his motherâs teachings heâd planned a meticulous campaign based on what he learned. A careful balance of being useful and being pitiful, appealing to the manâs respect for competence and his pleasure in standing up for the innocent, engendering good feelings that could be turned to his benefit when he eventually sought out a position of power, slowly at first to avoid giving him the impression that he was using him, and then climbing little by littleâŚ
Heâd barely gotten past the first step or two of the plan before Nie Mingjue was rushing past him, freely giving him the power and authority he so desperately craved, giving him respect he hadnât even known was possible to get from someone so different. Nie Mingjue had treated him as far more than a mere deputy, more than a trusted advisor, treated him as a friend.
Nie Mingjue freely gave Jin Guangyao warmth of the sort heâd lacked since his mother died.
Jin Guangyao had been a fool not to realize the value of that, in his first life. Only when he had all the power in the world and none of the love had he realized how much he had had, how much he had lost.
How pointless all that power was, without the love.
It had been an understandable mistake for him to have made â at that time, it hadnât been so long since he lost his mother, after all, and sheâd loved him dearly, so thoroughly, so all-consumingly, that the honest and sincere affection he received from Nie Mingjue didnât seem so important when it was compared to his ambitions.
Of course, having achieved all of his ambitions through all his schemes only to be brought down by vengeance born of that same Nie warmth and love had been â very educational.
And yetâŚnot quite as educational as the other part of it.
At what had happened between him and his sworn brothers, in the end.
Jin Guangyaoâs heart was made of stone, he knew, and it had only ever been moved twice in his life. He had only ever felt his heart beat fast because of the two men who had treated him well with no expectation of receiving anything in return. Lan Xichen, the beautiful and perfect gentleman who smiled at him and relied on him, and Nie Mingjue, the brave and powerful sect leader that found him pleasing and gave him everything, even his trust - at first.
In his past life, he had put Lan Xichen on a pedestal in his heart, the man appearing in every way the very image of the ideal cultivator that Jin Guangyao had dreamed of when he was a child. It had pleased him to be the one to save Lan Xichen, the one to protect him, to provide for him â it had made him feel strong, powerful, even before he actually had the power in his hands. For all that his cultivation was weaker, his age younger, Jin Guangyao was the stronger one between the two of them, and not only when he had saved his life, but after, too. Lan Xichenâs sect relied upon his Jin sect for their rebuilding, and Lan Xichen himself, a yielding personality that hated conflict, often relied on his guidance when it came to politics.
Jin Guangyao had fancied himself the manâs patron, luxuriating in the feeling of having made it so well and so thoroughly that he could keep a man like Lan Xichen, and in so doing heâd fallen for the same trick that each and every prostitute ever born had used on a willing mark since the beginning of time.
What had he not given Lan Xichen, in his first life? What had he stinted on, except perhaps the truths that would only hurt the man to know?
And what had it gotten him, in the end?
A single word from Lan Wangji, with his head turned by Wei Wuxian as always, had been enough for Lan Xichen to ban him from the Cloud Recesses without even a discussion, all the money and time and effort Jin Guangyao had put into rebuilding that very place forgotten as if it had never happened, as if the Cloud Recesses had resurrected itself without outside aid, or perhaps that it had never fallen at all.
A few rumors by prostitute and a bribed maid, and Lan Xichen believed the worst of him.
A childâs trick by Nie Huaisang (though Jin Guangyao hadnât yet realized all that heâd done), and Lan Xichen had run him through without so much as a blink.
Jin Guangyao did not delude himself into thinking this was a tragedy unique to him. No, he was exactly like every other rich man whoâd been squeezed dry by a beauty for his money and his power and abandoned the second it ran out.
Jin Guangyao had been angry, in his first life, that Nie Mingjue had â in his mind â cast him aside when heâd violated the manâs principles, but in the end Lan Xichen had done the same, and it was far worse because Jin Guangyao had given so much more of himself to him.
Chivalry, honor â who needed it?
Certainly not Nie Huaisang, who for his brotherâs sake had thrown away every last bit of respectability his birth had ever given him to wade into the muck to fight Jin Guangyao on his own terms and win; barely even Nie Mingjue, who might have clothed his deeds in respectability but who had gone to war â had dragged the rest of the cultivation world into death and despair â in order to avenge his father.
If it had been Nie Mingjue at the temple, not Lan Xichen, would Jin Guangyao had been run through? Or would Nie Mingjue, of the strong will but even stronger heart, have in the end stayed his blade, his terrible Baxia, and allowed Jin Guangyao to flee, just as heâd done so many years earlier?
It was only now, in thinking it over in the harsh light of hindsight, that he even thought to compare them.
He had only known Nie Mingjue for a few years, compared to the nearly two decades he had devoted to Lan Xichen, and yet in those years Nie Mingjue had never, even at his worst, sought to kill Jin Guangyao, even though he could have easily done so. Even full of poison and rot and deliberately instigated madness, driven to calling Jin Guangyao the insult he knew he hated most â although Jin Guangyao could admit to himself in retrospect that he was, at that precise moment, acting especially like a son of a whore â Nie Mingjue had held back his fearsome strength when he kicked him down the stairs of Jinlin Tower.
He hadnât even bruised a rib in that fall. When his father had kicked him, heâd broken three.
If he had had two decades to work his way into Nie Mingjueâs confidence, earn his loveâŚwould Nie Mingjue have so easily turned away from him?
No.
Nie Mingjue would have sought him out to hear his side of the story, the way he always did back in the army camp when troublemakers spread rumors about him in an effort to displace him. He would have called him to the Unclean Realm to explain himself, rather than banning him without a word. He would have refused to listen to rumors presented without basis and insisted on proof, on seeing for himself, insisted on letting Jin Guangyao have the opportunity to defend himself.
He would have protected him from his enemies even as he shouted at him â he would have thrown himself between the sword and Jin Guangyao rather than let him face the penalty of his actions alone.
He would not have run him through so thoughtlessly, as if he were a ghoul rather than a friend.
He would have let him go.
Yes, Jin Guangyao was sure of it. Nie Mingjue would have let him go.
Damn the man, too much an older brother to be able to put any conditions on his love, the naĂŻve idiot probably wouldnât have stopped there; he probably would have given Jin Guangyao money to help him on his way, wanting to make sure that the life he lived in Dongying would be a good one.
He would have done the same way if it had been Nie Huaisang that had been accused of so much evil. The same way heâd dragged his feet about going to fight Wei Wuxian at the Burial Mounds, even though his own men had been killed by him; the same way he couldnât bring himself to kill Jin Guangyao even after heâd murdered Nie disciples right before his eyesâŚ
The way everyone in the Nie sect had to train, without exception â except for Nie Huaisang, because Nie Mingjue loved him.
Heâd loved Jin Guangyao, once. Loved him enough to swear brotherhood with him despite the blood of those Nie sect disciples scarcely having been washed off his hands â if Nie Mingjue could forgive that, then surely the murder of a few dozen other sects wouldnât have mattered nearly as much, not the way they mattered to Lan Xichen.
Or, well, maybe they would have, but Nie Mingjue would have broken himself for him anyway.
And then Nie Huaisang wouldâve had to find a way to plot against him from a distance, which would be much harder for him, no matter how smart he was. Of course, that was assuming that Nie Huaisang would have plotted against him, instead of scheming to find a way to whitewash Jin Guangyaoâs name in order to bring him back to make his brother happy, the way heâd so obviously (in retrospect) done with Wei Wuxian on behalf of Jiang Cheng and Lan Wangji, who had been his friends.
First order of business: donât underestimate Nie Huaisang.
Second order of business: get Nie Mingjue on my side.
It wouldnât be that hard. Jin Guangyao was older and wiser now, less impulsive than heâd been, a little wiser in the way of people, perhaps. It hadnât been until he saw the depths of what Nie Huaisang had done â his uncaring eyes that only a few days before had been crying into his shoulder as if Jin Guangyao was the only person in the world who loved him â that he realized that what Nie Mingjue had hated most about Jin Guangyaoâs betrayal had been the treachery of it, not the specific actions heâd taken.
Heâd presented himself as someone pure and innocent and clean, someone who would never do such a thing, and so when he had done it Nie Mingjue had realized that he had been lied to for all that time. That he had extended trust, and received none.
By the point in time he was at now, Nie Mingjue knew what type of person he was: ambitious and cutthroat, ruthless, a liar and a murderer. And yet, knowing all this, he still had still sworn brotherhood to him â had still extended his trust.
All Jin Guangyao needed to do now, thus, was to extend that trust in return.
For real, this time. Or at least â as close as he ever came to real.
His fatherâs request that Jin Guangyao use his connections to his sworn brothers to make Nie Mingjue stop his pestering over Xue Yang â so carefully couched in words that could be denied later, and were â would work perfectly. He would pretend to sulk, reluctant to admit what was wrong; Lan Xichen would fall for it at once and try to coax the truth out of him.
He would tell them.
Lan Xichen would be filled with horror, livid at what Jin Guangshan had asked of him, at what he was being forced to do â furious on his behalf, leaping to his defense. The perfect gentleman, as always.
Nie Mingjue, though, wouldnât trust a word he said. Later, when they were alone, Jin Guangyao could look him in the eye and admit that heâd considered it. That heâd weighed the pros and cons of it, the love of his father and filial duty and, yes, even power â
Itâs a waste, heâd say. I donât know whatâs right and whatâs wrong, da-ge, you know that, but I know that I donât want to lose you.
Nie Mingjue would believe him.
He wouldnât believe the sad and pitiful version of him that Lan Xichen had always liked, but heâd believe the ruthless Jin Guangyao, finally tricked back to the side of righteousness by some unnamed emotion that caught him by surprise â yes, Nie Mingjue would like that.
Lan Xichen wouldnât.
Jin Guangyao had always known, hadnât he, even in his first life, that he would only ever be able to please one of them perfectly. Heâd known that doing what he needed to do to ensnare Lan Xichen, who loved rescuing the pitiful, would anger Nie Mingjue, who hated hypocrisy; he had decided, his eyes full of the pure moonlight, that he preferred Lan Xichen, and acted accordingly.
Well, Jin Guangyao was not and had never been a stern absolutist, inflexible and unbending. He knew how to learn from his mistakes.
Heâd given Lan Xichen a lifetime, and it had turned out â well, for a while, and then terribly.
In this lifetime, heâd see how far Nie Mingjue could take him.
Next order of business â donât underestimate Lan Wangji. Itâs always the younger brothersâŚ