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Do you believe that zionist paramilitaries were justified in using terrorist tactics in support of their cause?
More generally, what tools are "valid" for non-state actors in pursuit of becoming a state?
(these are genuine questions im curious to hear your answers to, not a gotcha attempt)
Here's how Haviv Rettig Gur answers this question:
You want to know if Zionist paramilitaries were justified using terrorism against the British.
The implication is clear: if they were justified, then is Hamas justified now?
But discussion of "justification" misses what actually matters and is a strategic reframing of the comparison you're suggesting.
Here's what we should compare:
1. Could the British leave?
Yes. They had England. They were occupiers by choice.
Can Israelis leave?
No. They literally have No Other Land. (Yes, that's where the line comes from - it was appropriated by the makers of the propaganda film)
This isn't "colonial power vs natives." It's two peoples, both with national claims, with nowhere else to go.
2. What did Zionist groups want?
To expel the British and create a state.
What does Hamas want?
To eliminate Israel. Not "end occupation," but to eliminate the state. Read the Hamas charter.
These are very different goals.
People keep reaching for "justification" because it's simple and clean. It gives you a good guy and a bad guy. You pick your side, you're done. You get to feel moral clarity. That's what the Free Palestine movement is about: emotional resonance.
The actual situation offers no clarity. You can argue about who's more wrong or who started it, but justification framing skips past the harder question: what do you actually do when neither of these two peoples is going anywhere?
Justification turns a political problem into a morality play. It lets you have an opinion without needing a solution.
"Justification" is what Hamas supporters rely on to rationalize, then excuse any Hamas atrocity.
"Justification" is a fundamentally broken way to evaluate terrorism.
Targeting civilians is always wrong, and never, ever justifiable.
The identity of the attacked doesn't matter. The identity of the attacker doesn't matter. The goals being pursued by the attack don't matter.
No attacks targeting civilians are ever justified.
Dispelling rationalizations becomes itself rationalization. Instead of working to gain self-awareness, the initiates become adept at subsuming all instinctual conflicts under such concepts as inferiority complex, mother-fixation, extroversion and introversion, to which they are in reality inaccessible. Terror before the abyss of the self is removed by the consciousness of being concerned with nothing so very different from arthritis or sinus trouble. Thus conflicts lose their menace. They are accepted, but by no means cured, being merely fitted as an unavoidable component into the surface of standardized life.
Theodor W. Adorno, Minima Moralia, 40
U don't have to rationalize everything babes... sometimes there's no deep 5-paragraph analysis reason why u feel bad, u just do (or it's as simple as hungry/tired/overstimulated). sometimes that person isn't a toxic narcissistic abuser, u just don't like them (not everyone is gonna like u, either). sometimes that book/show/movie/game isn't evil and deeply problematic, u just don't enjoy it (and not enjoying it is making u feel isolated and left out). this isn't school yall, you don't have to defend your answer. you don't need 10,000 reasons u feel the way u do. just let yourself exist babes.
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RATIONALIZATION, 02/25/2025
"Every time I close the door on Reality, it comes in through the window." Ashleigh Brilliant
I am an alcoholic. That is a reality against which I had slammed the door for years. She crept in through the window and slapped me upside the head. Facing Reality head-on, I accepted the truth of it and began the long road to recovery. I'm still an alcoholic, but my drink of choice these days is coffee, for the most part. It is still a chemical addiction, but at least I can drive. The only down side is I have to pull over to pee more often, but that's a tale for another day. Really! Š keefderpoet, 2025

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Being on the receiving end of this is no fun. In a way, you always end up maintaining a degree of separation between yourself and the person who can't regulate their emotions. You just can't get close to them.
You find yourself wanting to be close to them, but you know that at any time, they may misconstrue something you say, even if what you say is not directed toward them in any way.
You try to get them to understand that what you were saying was just a generalized statement and had nothing to do with them, but they continue to recontextualize what you've said, making it 100% personal to how it made them feel when your words were not even related to them at all.
They begin to play the victim and begin to guilt-trip you into taking responsibility for what they're feeling, not realizing that they have assigned meaning to something that never needed it. When you finally do get through to them, you only find that they are rationalizing their behavior. Justifying every bit of the unnecessary tension they caused, placing blame for the entire situation onto you, or onto something you said in response to their acting out.
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Bruising wasnât just a pain at best, it was an inconvenience to the family at worst. Thanks to the swelling, the spatter pattern across Blobboidâs ribs was a lot bubblier now, each throb of pain creating a new leak for the towels and ice packs to catch before it made a mess of the kitchen floor.
Câmon, pull yourself togetherâŚThis is exactly what Dad was talking about. Everybodyâll be itching to get their hands on you if they know a few lucky punches are all it takes for you to spill your guts.
Well, a few dozen lucky punches. But Dad was only so gung-ho about literally wiping the floor with him because Blob had such big gaps in his defense. He had to shape up, get serious like his brothersâlike Gravâs expression as he stopped in the doorway. He stared at the sodden towels against his side for several seconds.
âTraining?â he spat.
Uh-oh. Was Grav already mad at him for his embarrassing performance too? Had Dad already complained about him to the others?
âUhâŚyeahâŚProbably best if you donât ask to see my report card. Talk about a training dummy.â His halfhearted chuckle shook self-consciously with the stitch in his side and sludge promptly pitter-pattered onto the floor. âUgh, sorry! Sorry, I-Iâll get that once I canâagh, actually bend down without busting a gut!â
âNo, you go lie down, settle your stomach. Iâll deal with it.â
âYou shouldnât have to, bro. Iâm the mess, itâs not your job toââ
âYouâre not, it is, and I will. Iâll deal with it.â
âOkay! Okay, okay, if youâfeel that strongly about it.â Blob swallowed thickly, another leak springing as his insides somersaulted. âI-I am sorry, though.â
âDonât be. Youâre not the one who should be apologizing.â
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