#quiteshocking

[Image ID: Flowey saying: “You know. Smiley Trashbag.” in one of his post-neutral dialogues.]

[Image ID: Papyrus saying: “AFTER ALL, I’M HOUSEMATES WITH A LAZY BAG OF TRASH!” in his phone call in the save point room of Waterfall’s dump.]

Woah, dang, he did that?

..yep! Apparently! Didn't realize he actually set a hard limit, I don't really go on Twitter. https://twitter.com/reidman/status/1444790336199356425 (this is one of the co-founders of fangamer, if anyone doesn't know.) I'll put some replies down, too (and pretend anyone who doesn't already know all this is reading lol).

("well im not gonna speculate" -immediately starts speculating xD)

Worth noting that the reasons for the limit are all speculation on this guy's part

It's definitely suspicious, huh? He might just be covering all his bases, judging by the "partly philosophical" thing. Not wanting to do merch for the lightners specifically definitely does make it seem like there's something to hide there, although there are pins and shirts (2D stuff) with some of them now, so..?

And the plushies... it occurs to me that having fun, quirky stuff inside instead of a soul is something Ralsei has in common with the skeleton brothers, though Toriel is the only one with a soul so that's probably irrelevant. Regardless, if Toby allowed plushies of the lightners, I'd think they could just have fun character-relevant stuff (or nothing at all like Lancer), no real worry of spoilers. If not wanting an in-progress character's plushie was the issue, then it's kinda weird we have two of Ralsei, even if he is a darkner.

Ah, another intellectual, I see! Someone who acknowledges that Papyrus also breaks the laws of physics on a whim, not just Sans. He's just already such an eccentric character that people forget to notice how weird his movements can be!

(I can't find gifs for the other ones, argh >_>)

That is definitely a curiosity, that both ghosts and skeletons seem to be unique. Another connection I never made myself. They do seem to be the only undead-themed monsters (iirc), and they also happen to be the most unusual...

Either you're on to something big here, or it might be another coincidence. Ghosts didn't really get much of a highlight in Undertale and Deltarune isn't yet long enough for us to know if they will be important (beyond the little reference in Spamton NEO).

If you asked me, judging by the skeletons' central part in Undertale and their vague connections to Gaster, as well as their habit of featuring prominently in outside-of-game stuff like trailers and tumblr and the q&a, the skeletons are unique for very specific and special reasons. On the other hand, we haven't seen much of the ghosts, and honestly, I think the only reasons the ghosts are so confusing is simply because Toby built his own concept of ghosts in his head and we just can't see into his brain to figure out exactly how it all fits together.

As for Napstablook not getting absorbed... this is just guessing, but perhaps it was a combination of incorporeality and the fact that they were inside and saw the light coming, considering they specifically mentioned shutting the light outside. Maybe being outside Undyne's house meant Mad Dummy didn't see it coming and couldn't resist in time. Technically, Mad Dummy might have even found out about everything from outside sources like Napstablook, or fused with the dummy sometime behind the scenes. (I'd check if the dummy in the ruins, who's an unbonded ghost, has any notable dialogue after the Asriel fight, but the text project I'm using doesn't seem to have that recorded and my computer with Undertale installed is kinda bricked rn haha.)

Being perfectly honest, I think it was just a gag about Napstablook getting excluded and Mad Dummy not being excluded was an oversight, haha.

ok so this post is gonna be garbage and no one’s gonna see it but i swear i’ve never seen anyone talk about this??? monsters make no freakin sense in deltarune like literally at all??

(sorry ahead of time for clumsy sourcing i don’t wanna hunt for screenshots rn)

📷mollytheocto said: I’m p sure monsters wouldn’t have human level souls, they don’t have blood or bones in Deltarune so there still ain’t enough physical matter in monsters to support human determination levels normally. Also I bet monsters are still made of magic, but I guess it’s just, innate? when not in a darkworld, cause humans (not made of magic) can’t learn magic in the Dark World, but Monsters (Who are) can

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Monsters might, and probably do bleed! As judging by these (look at Toriel's mouth):

(Yeah, not including Sans here cause those skeletons are the opposite of normal. >_>)

Just, probably not blood, judging by apartment kid. Who knows, man. Hurts my feeble little brain.

About the innate magic thing, though-- yeah, that makes a lot of sense! Still kinda weird, though, and makes me wonder why magic is a trait they share with darkners. I can't think of a single thing darkners seem to have in common with humans to balance it out, other than maybe having blood judging by Lancer's bucket of blood thing (and the unused Snowgrave death animation showing enemies dissolving in red so.. blood?? maybe). (And unless Kris being controlled by an outside force is a universal thing for humans in Deltarune, paralleling darkners' purpose to serve-- but that's a deep rabbit hole with zero evidence, haha.) Loops back to my crack theory of monsters being descended from darkners somehow, but again, crack theory.

An interesting point I never noticed before now, actually!

Do keep in mind that nothing in merch is necessarily canon: