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This is a very long post, GIFs included.

1. Rivyan (Rick/Vyvyan)

I ship it. Just look at these two. They're practically gay for each other. Toxic yaoi but make it t4t. I do wish the shipping scene wasn't 99.9% Rivyan tho give the other guys some love too 😭

(also in my mind it's transmasc vyv and transfem rick. but it's not heterosexual it's still very gay)

2. CoolPye (Mike/Neil) [couldn't find too many gifs of them together]

I understand it. In my mind, Neil respects him not only cause of Mike’s leadership and almost parental role, but also because he’s the nicest one to him. I mean, Mike does insult him, but when the other guys are yelling at him or beating him up almost every episode, I think Mike is the least harsh to Neil. I'm not a huge shipper of CoolPye (most of the time I don't ship it at all but if I read a good fic I can get into it) but I do like the dynamic.

3. CoolPoet (Rick/Mike)

I'm starting to get into it a little bit. It's kinda the same parent/child dynamic that Mike and Vyvyan have, except it's clear that Rick isn't the 'favourite child'. I like the moment in Flood where they're playing hide and seek and Rick is genuinely apologetic about finding Mike first. So sweet. But do I think they've got the hots for each other? No

4. PunkPye (Vyvyan/Neil)

Arguably the second friendliest relationship that Neil has with the housemates aside from Mike. I remember in Bomb, Vyvyan tried to help Neil get the lentils out of the cupboard (even if they did fail and end up getting the lentils everywhere and breaking the crockery), and in Cash, Vyvyan cut Neil's hair for him. These are the nice moments I remember (and then most of the time Vyv's treating Neil like crap). Also there's that moment in Nasty where Vyvyan is checking Neil out when he's wearing Rick's dress, and in the Comic Relief stage shows Vyvyan is "using Neil as a contraceptive". I ship it.

If you want a little bonus head canon from me, I headcanon that the nurse's outfit that Neil mentions in the Saturday Superstore interviews was bought so that Neil could be forcefemmed for some freaky roleplaying. Maybe they even (literally) played doctor *wink wink*

5. PoetPye (Rick/Neil)

Hate. Let me tell you how much HATE these two have for each other (/ref). I've said it before and I'll say it again. Neil can put up with the others, but he's not afraid to call Rick out on his bullshit. He was just utterly done with him by the end of the series. He even gave this little speech about how everything Rick's gone through, Neil's had it worse. If that's not a sign of someone finally having enough of a person they hate and snapping under the pressure of built-up resentment, then I don't know what is. It's very rare where they have a nice moment and the only one I can remember off the top of my head is in Time where Rick is lying about sleeping with Helen and Neil wants to hear all the details. There's definitely material for an enemies to lovers or hate sex scenario or toxic yaoi but I don't ship it.

(I may also be biased cause of our system having both Neil and Rick fictives, who dislike each other)

6. Mivyan (Mike/Vyvyan)

I know practically everyone's said this (including me) but Mivyan is definitely a father/son or mentor/protégé dynamic. It's clear that Vyvyan respects Mike most of the time, and even in the few instances where he doesn't, he clearly is more lenient with Mike than the others (iirc, he never targets Mike physically).

My head canon is that these two are transmasc chosen family. They're bonding over shared struggles with family and trans stuff, with Mike being the mentor and father figure Vyv never had, giving him a roof over his head and helping him get into college and probably getting into legally dubious shenanigans together. I also head canon that Vyv may have shared his DIY testosterone with Mike and helped him transition (and even did his top surgery). So yeah, transmascs sticking together.

In terms of slash, I personally don't think that there's a lot of romantic or sexual stuff going on with Mivyan. It's mostly platonic. Although I do think they would hook up occasionally or have done so in the past, as a sort of pity sex thing. So it's friends with benefits I guess.

7. The poly ships (CoolPunkPye, CoolPoetPye, whatever Mike/Rick/Vyvyan and Rick/Vyvyan/Neil are called, and all four of them together)

This is going to be a bit short but I'll share my thoughts on the poly ships.

Rick/Vyv/Neil and Scumbag Polycule (which is what I'm calling the four-person ship for the time being) are practically canon in my mind. Even if I don't think all members are dating each other, Vyvyan is definitely the thread that keeps these ships together. In my mind, it's Vyvyan dating all of them (or just Rick and Neil) simultaneously, with maybe CoolPye. Likewise, I semi-ship CoolPunkPye but only because I'm not entirely on board with CoolPye.

If you've read my thoughts on CoolPoet and Mivyan, you can probably surmise that I don't ship Mike/Rick/Vyvyan. Their dynamic is more platonic to me. It's chosen family; it's trans people sticking together (one of which is extremely in denial about her transness but I've already discussed that before). I also don't ship CoolPoetPye. As I've said before, there's too much animosity with PoetPye imo.

8. Neil/The fifth housemate

This one's just an adorable little bonus for two characters that never interacted in canon but I do ship it! Neil would be the only one that notices the fifth housemate and he'd make them tea sometimes and maybe they'd share a blunt or listen to records or do whatever else hippies are into. There's just wholesome vibes all around.

Ummmmm yeah anyway that’s all i’ve got to say. Sorry about how long it turned out

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Omg yeah… he doesn’t get enough praise. I wanna pat him and call him a good boy :3

Suggestive stuff below cut:

* They definitely just comfort eachother bc they both have pretty shit lives in my opinion, especially Neil but I just know Vyvyan has lore.

* They do gardening together, Vyv looks after his begonias and Neil does everything else.

* Neil got Vyvyan a pack of glow in the dark stars (yk like the ones you stick on the ceiling) and he put them on his forehead so he glowed when it got dark.

* SPG and Wayne have bonded over rather interesting conversations while Neil and Vyv hung out together in each other’s bedrooms (yes Wayne can talk, he’s a plant)

* Neil ended up getting a job as a florist and he always keeps Wayne and a pot of begonias on his desk to remind him of Vyvyan (they’re so married in the future, I know Neil wore some sort of hippy wedding dress and Vyvyan studded up his tuxedo).

* Mike ships it.

* Vyv was the first person to listen to Neil’s heavy concept album and loved Lentil Nightmare the best (well it was the only decent one to him apart from Hurdy Gurdy man so he pretended to be excited about it to make his boyfriend happy)

* Vyv unironically listens to Bad News.

* Neil and Den Dennis are cousins (they both like music so it makes sense and are both Nigel planer characters so it works)

* In their future home, they intertwined Vyv’s lock and chain with Neil’s Ankh necklace and put it up on the wall.

* Vyv calls Neil “petal” bc he saw Eddie call Richie “petal” (omg Richie x Eddie)

* For my “Vyv is a trans guy” headcanons, I like to think that Neil name’s him herbal tea when he’s on his period. Also Vyv isn’t one to get dysphoric about it, he finds it interesting and cool in medical terms (he still thinks it’s a pain in the ass tho, as it is), also Vyv definitely had his medical student friends do his top surgery.

* They do not know how to flirt with eachother for the life of them. Vyv says the most random and or inappropriate bollocks you’ve ever heard and Neil just gets really shy and doesn’t know what to say (bless him)

* This is a long one:

So I believe Eddie is Vyv’s uncle and is his mother’s brother and when he found out that Neil and Vyv were in love, this was their conversation (also Vyvyan’s mother is a bitch)

Vyv’s mum: oh god, they’re dating…

Eddie: I know…

Vyv’s: Indeed, Vyv shouldn’t be dating a boy.

Eddie: What? No not that.

Vyv’s mum: What then?

Eddie: He’s dating a hippy…

We love supportive Uncle Eddie 🔥🗣️‼️

* Another long one

So this was mainly derived from a fanfic idea but I can imagine that when they both started to have feelings for eachother, they’d send eachother notes and post them under their doors. So Neil would always write Vyv’s name with i’s instead of y’s (so it would be Vivian instead of Vyvyan). Vyv noticed this but didn’t want to say anything because Neil would always dot his i’s with little flowers and he didn’t want him to stop adding the flowers to his name.

* They were both the types of kids to eat dirt.

I can’t think of anymore for now but I still love them with all my heart and cherish this ship with my life :3