hey btw the ableism present in every system community -- pro endo, anti endo, endo neutral, endo critical, whatever -- is because people with mental illness are denied respect and dignity. the ableism is because society is ableist and many people have not unpacked their unconscious biases towards people with severe mental illnesses. has nothing to do with what community you're in. it's just like, a material reality of living in an ableist world,
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"Anti endo vent π" I am sad for you as well because you feel the need to fake oppression β₯οΈ.
You should vent about how hating people who use the term endogenic and mocking their appearance makes you disgusting and not the kind you can simply wash off. β€οΈβπ₯ you can rid yourself of sin by lying.
Thanks for adding to everyone's day by making them feel a thousand times more shit for being alive. Having amnesia isn't an excuse either.
isff doesn't have DID and neither do most ppl on this site. Ppl are either rly lonely / working thru other mental issues or Worse (like Isuggestbeingacreep and Friends) are tryng to escape accountability.
-someone who actually has a loved one with REAL DIAGNOSED DID and knows how Terrifying and Confusing it is to literally lose hours, days, or even WEEKS of their life and usn't just playing with their Imaginary Friends
I believe you mean nothing bad by this ask, and I feel bad for your loved one. But to be very blunt, it is not my place to diagnose people online or doubt their stated mental issues. It adds nothing good or valuable to the conversation to be claiming she's faking without evidence. Whether she has DID or not doesn't excuse anything she's doing, so I don't much care to factor it into all of this
However, and the rest of this reply isn't directed at you, anon - even if she is plural, a system, has DID... it makes this stuff worse!
This got long and plural-focused, so, read-more. CW for references to CSA (of a headmate)
To catch people up to speed - being plural/a system is a colloquial term for experiencing DID, originally known as "multiple personality disorder". Different people have different experiences with it, seeing as it's a relatively poorly understood phenomenon. The rest of this is going to be less scientific, more "cultural". Some experience their headmates/alters (fellow identities) as being entirely separate entities, while others experience them as voices in their head. It's a wide range.
Now! This is relevant to ISFF because she, on her original account, made a post about her desire to rape a 2 year old headmate, using a meme format:
As a reminder, headmates are usually considered to be a separate entity. This is not understood to be an imaginary friend or OC, it is understood to be a separate being with their own mindset, capable of being harmed and experiencing their own emotions.
Later, after weeks of people bringing it up as proof of her being inappropriate on her "SFW" fetish blog, she backpeddled and claimed she both does not have a 2yo headmate, and that it was just a joke:
Still inappropriate on your "minors pls interact I'm safe for work minors pls see this pls" blog, but whatever. On its own, it would be a fair statement if she isn't plural and was ignorant of the implications. It would be fair if she IS plural and her headmates aren't separate entities in her case.
But no! In another post, her partner claims to be dating 1 alter of hers, pretty directly confirming that ISFF considers her alters to be separate beings with separate love lives, interaction, and life experiences.
So, like, she knows headmates will be understood as separate beings from herself. She clearly believes her plurality is separating enough for her different alters to have different partners/lives. And yet she still thought it was okay to joke about molesting one of them and then act like people are crazy for pointing out how weird that is to say.
ISFF wanting her plurality to both be accepted enough that her alters get to have separate lives but then treating plurality and alters as a joke/punchline in a meme is just... Weird
People in so many communities and subcultures waste so much time and energy gatekeeping and policing labels instead of being authentic and cultivating joy. If everyone did that those that are putting on airs would weed themselves out, anyway.
Even with groups that are indeed acting with malicious intent, like the KFF that weren't just misinformed, there comes a point where wasting all your energy on people that are never going to change their minds about you and yours is just a waste of valuable mental energy.
(The last paragraph does not apply if your life is in danger. I am talking purely about online spaces.)
loving and getting along with and having fun with your alters doesn't make you immediately like having DID and want to keep having DID. getting along with your alters does not suddenly make having DID easy, comfortable, or fun. can we stop with the idea that if actually the people w CDDs who hate endos would treat their alters niceys that they would change their minds about endos. not only would it not change their minds it's also pretty disrespectful to other CDD systems.
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I dont understand a lot of anti endo takes. I think plurality is an under researched thing so its hard to say that *only* [x] thing allows you to be plural- I also believe that simply, you do not know what is going on inside someones head, what right do you have to say if they are or are not plural? i dunno though .