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I think Iāve officially lost the last braincell I had
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Not me planning my plot by plastering my door in post it notes
I think Iāve officially lost the last braincell I had

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Villain protagonist project
OK ok hear me out.
I'm working out the story for a project and in it there's two antagonists and it's the protagonist who's broken by them. The antagonists are a hero and a villain and the protagonist is a person that gets caught in their crossfire. It will probably be a three part story. First part starts with the protag on the hero's side and the hero being portrayed as the bad guy in the protag story and in the second part it's the villain who's the one breaking the protag after they joined him. They both use/abuse the protagonist and in part three the protagonist becomes the bigger stronger person and over throws both of them.
The Struggle Is Real
saku: no politics in this fic
also saku: writes politics in the first chapter
saku: no royal power battles
also saku: Lin Jingyuan coup d'etat to fill the current plot holes I have
I remember finishing the final season of GOT and feeling terribly disappointed by the ending. Since Iām working on a fantasy wip myself, I canāt help but wonder, how do you write a good, satisfying ending? And more specifically, how to decide if a happy ending or sad ending is more suitable for your story? Thanks
(I didnāt think this was going to be such a long answer but turns out I have a lot to say. Buckle in, but Iāve underlined the main points).
Okay, first of all SPOILERS ahead for Game of Thrones.
Second, I want to preface by saying that I lovedĀ Game of Thronesā¦up until like the last three episodes. I think everyone was at least somewhat disappointed in how it ended, but not because it was a happy or sad ending but because it betrayed some of the characters weāve spent eight seasons coming to love. And no, I donāt mean because Jon betrayed Dany, I mean that it feels like the writers betrayed who Dany was in order to make Jon betray her and āshockā the audience.Ā
The thing about GoT is that it was known as the show whereĀ anything could happen pretty much since Ned Stark, who was arguably the main hero of the first season, was murdered. So there is pressure to come up with the most unbelievable twist ending that nobody would see coming. How do you do that? A shit ton of planning and very careful foreshadowing. And thatās where this ending fell apart. Iāve seen a few people saying online that it seems like the writers realized that people were guessing where the show was going so they panicked and came up with an ending that nobodyĀ would guessā¦but in doing so the ending makes no sense.
Iāve been thinking about this question for a while and I happened to come across this postĀ which is a Twitter thread by Zac Gorman where he talks about the plot arc of Parks & Rec and why the ending was badly written because they made it too much of a good ending. I havenāt actually watched P&R but the idea behind the theory of endings makes sense, particularly something he said about how a couple shouldnāt win the lottery after the first act unless itās āanĀ inciting incident that forms the foundation of the entire story.ā To generalize, donāt give a character some major new characteristic or backstory but you haven't hinted to after the first act. In this case, Danyās apparent insanity. Like for seven seasons sheās been flawed, sure, but for fucks sake why the HELL did she burn all of Kingās Landing and its people??? Like, if she wanted to kill Cersei she had the dragonā¦Cersei was literally standing by a windowā¦the dragon had virtually no enemies. Why not burn down the castle but not the city??? WHY, DANY?? Characters can change, sure, but with reasons that dig into those core attributes of their character arc.Ā
And thatās why the ending was so disappointing. Not because Dany died or she and Jon didnāt get to live happily ever after ruling Westeros as the most honourable good hearted leaders the nation has ever had or whatever ending anyone was hoping for, but because it felt like the Dany of the end was a different character altogether and we didnāt get to see what really should have happened. It pulls us out of the story when a character does something that is completely unlike them, just like when some random stroke of good luck or Deus Ex Machina solves a plot conflict. Weāre reminded that this is fiction and the writers can do whatever the hell they want even though they shouldnāt.Ā Tyrion kind of gives an explanation to her actions when he says that everyone has been telling her she is so good and right all the time so she no longer believes she can be wrong but, you know what, no. Nothing about her actions prior to that episode would make her burn a city of innocents when her entire arc has been about destroying the evil tyrants and saving the people, even giving them the option to follow her or not. Dany failing to beat Cersei was an option. Dany failing to win over the people of Westeros was an option. Dany being betrayed was an option. Dany committing a horrible genocide for no apparent reason just leaves everyone scratching their heads and angry.
So how do you write a twist ending then? The way they wrote the ending of the war with the white walkers. I donāt think anyone expected Arya to be the one to kill the Night King and even that very short scene where she drops the knife from one hand to the other was AWESOME. I totally forgot about Arya until she appeared and thatās how it should be. A writer should make a reader forget what they know so they are surprized but not confused by a twist. And the best part is that afterward I sat there thinkingā¦the Night King literally has control over the dead. Aryaās motto wasĀ āWhat do we say to the god of death? Not today.ā It makes perfect sense that this character who has been trained to be this stealthy assassin would be the one to finish the job and itās so satisfying, even if you were expecting Jon to do it and even though other beloved characters had to die. Itās not about a happy or sad ending for GoT, in fact I think it would have been a disservice to the show to have a perfect fairytale ending.Ā
Now that Iāve ranted a bit about the ending of GoT (I could go on but this is long enough already), letās get a little more broad with a fantasy ending. Unlike a comedy or romance which are genres that kind of necessitate a happy ending, or a tragedy with a sad ending, a fantasy can really go either way. But keep in mind expectations. Twist endings are great but when you mess with expectations too much readers will feel cheated. For example, a lot of fantasy books have some kind of war or final show down. An ending where the war never happens or nobody dies might be all rosy and nice but realistically it feels like a cope out. On the other hand, a truly tragic ending is rare and I think they work only when readers are going in expecting tragedy. Itās usually when the point of the story is more about human experience or morals or teaching something. There is of course a range like Zac Gorman showed from the deepest pit of despair to sugar coated fairy tale ending. Kill off characters, make them have to sacrifice smaller goals in order to achieve the larger one, let them fail sometimes. I think bittersweet endings typically lend themselves best to most fantasy stories (unless itās fairy tale style. No shade to fairy tales of course, just a distinct style).Ā
All this boils down to this: whatever ending you decide on, dear God please don't throw in random stuff just for the shock value when you haven't put in the work to make it fit beforehand. If you plan on having a twist ending, you better know what you want to do WAY ahead of time so you can really sprinkle in that good foreshadowing and smack your readers with it when the time comes.
Do you have any advice on how to develop a long fic plot? Most of my ideas have little plot, and I have no idea how to come up with one. My simple ideas might be okay for a 2000 word fic, but not a 75,000 word one. My ideas are like Rhett and Link go to a fancy restaurant, or Rhett has a backache and Link massages him. They arenāt these big, multifaceted ideas that make a whole story like good writers (like you!) seem to have. I wish I could figure out how to get better at ideas and plotting.
Hello, lovely anon. Iām gonna describe my process plot planning Let Me Be Your Light. Maybe that will help you. :)
This became quite long, sorryā¦

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It feels super weird to come back to this.
The list has had some slight adjustments since I first started but it feels pretty cemented now. Iām pretty confident that this is it...and despite still having 8 chapters to write, I feel sad that itās ending.
Haha Iām such a little bitch.
Thou shall not fall. Thou shall not die. Thou shall not fear. Thou shall not kill...
Tenets from the Chiss Ascendancy House Nuruodo Primer
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What would you do if you found out there was a dragonet who was not a Nightwing but had future sight similar to yours and Clearsight's?
Darkstalker was quiet for a moment, his eyes narrowed curiously. āIs that even possible..?ā he wondered aloud.
He sat back on his throne with a hum. āI would be very interested to meet them, I can tell you that.ā