Everyone: Suffering from s5 Byler
Me: Still processing s6 Patrivan, eternal despair

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Everyone: Suffering from s5 Byler
Me: Still processing s6 Patrivan, eternal despair

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Honestly I have to say this. A lot of the Joel-Ivan hate comes from Patrivan shippers who can't let go and won't let Ivan move on and hate to see him with anyone else. I am also a Patrivan shipper, but I am also a fan of the show and very much enjoyed this season.
The truth is, when you don't see everything through a Patrivan shippers eyes, is that Joel was good for Ivan and made him happy again, they don't have the problematic history of Patrick and Ivan, and the chemistry was on fire, both sexually and romantically.
Just my opinion:)
Admittedly, I am one of those who can't let go. Although, after the initial disappointment, I can't say I hate the new pair anymore, but more or less indifferent. I did skim a little of some episodes, and thought Joel was such a lost puppy (it's the eyes) but from the little I saw, he had more chemistry with Omar (by a slight bit).
But you are right. The hate for Joel/Ivan does stem from patrivan, no denying that. It is the reason I'm uninspired to watch the new season, after all. The lingering dissatisfaction. Not fair, but changes like this do cut off people's interest. Lucky for those who can move on, sucks for those who could take time.
WE GOT A MUTUAL I LOVE YOU BUT PATRICK ISN’T EVEN THERE
GOD THE PAIN IS REAL
The patrivan video cal didn’t happen but I think they did a great job showing ivan loves Patrick so much
Ivan and Joel chemistry is plain
Losing Patrick is the big highlight of Ivan’s s7 story
Ivan literally will never love anyone the way he loves Patrick and in this season it shows that
"Ivan and Joel's chemistry is plain." I have seen the gifs and felt nothing ðŸ˜. Not a hint of spark and I feel kinda bad. It's probably bias talking, but I remember dropping my jaw at Ivan and Patrick's S5 gifs even though I was a Patrick/Omar truther in S4.
So, what was all the sex between Ivan and Joel, then? It wasn't pity fuck, or something, was it? Also, isn't Joel Omar's boyfriend? Is Ivan helping Joel cheat on Omar? Like Omar doesn't have enough issues on his plate, my poor boy ðŸ˜. And Ivan should have learned a thing or two about cheating by now. But no, I guess not.
ÉLITE 7.03 | Bling-Bling

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So, I just finished episode 1 of Elite 7 and... I don't know what to feel. I always liked Omar in the earlier seasons, so seeing him again struggling to cope with the aftermath, I can't help but feel for him. Also, I thought I'd be indifferent with the new characters, but I might like Eric. I hate to say this, but the friendship circle of Isa and co. just don't have chemistry for me. Their interaction in this episode feels forced and... just acting. But the same cannot be said of the dynamic between Nico and Eric. I think there's something genuine between them that just isn't there with Isa, Ivan, and the rest. Raul can still fuck off to the sun.
Look, I know all too well what it's like to realize that you won't be able to spend time with someone again. Or do the things you never did together. And it hurts like hell.
He could be talking about his dad, Patrick, or both. But whatever.
I thought my hopes might get revived when Ivan listened to Patrick's voice message (and it seemed like he'd killed the replay button on that one), but nope. And it certainly didn't help that he kissed the pizza boy a few minutes later. I'm sure Joel is a good guy, but he's Patrick-replacement to me and I just can't see it any other way. It's nice (and I say this very loosely) that they didn't immediately erase Patrick in the narrative as soon as he's gone, but I know Ivan's longing won't last long and he's going to start something with Joel and that's it for my Patrivan.
Not an exciting first episode, as the first episodes of Elite go. I don't think I can do this for seven more. Especially after that spoiler I saw. I stayed for Patrivan and there's no point now, is there? :'((
Rumor is Ivan and Patrick will video call in s7 aw shucks
So, S7 is out. Did this rumor turn out right, or nah? I feel like I will just resent this season. And I initially decided to watch just so I could shit on it justifiably, but idk now tbh.
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