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Emo is a dressing trend started in early 2000 that is often associated with black BUT, instead of gothic culture, it's more near to the boom of the internet and has a lot of things in common with scene style
Opium is a dressing trend started by playboy carti in 2020: it's defined by the mix of streetwaer and gothic clothing.
Mostly it's also associated with gothic structures such as churches and dark forests.
it has also brands that dont appear in emo style and is mostly wore by black people.
A SUMMARY
emo:
internet
2000
black clothing
mostly white culture
came with metal/rock
opium:
gothic culture
street wear
2020
came with rage/trap genre
mostly black culture
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what do you think about people who think punk/goth/any alt genre as just an aesthetics/fashion based thing????
hiii, how you doing? I wrote a long postš š„“ a while ago regarding my thoughts/experiences on punk/goth culture. Itās quite extensiveš«£š„“ and thereās a bit of history in it, but itās pretty personal š¤Ŗ.
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But in case you donāt wanna read it, then I gotta tell you that goth/punk/alt just like any other culture/subculture canāt be ājust a fashion/aesthetics based thingā.
Iām pretty sure I included it in that post, but when we willfully ignore that: we create vacuums.
Thatās why punks wearing svastikas later became nazis dressing like punks. Or painting your face white turned into the requirement that separates āaltā from āgothā. Because apparently, if you wanna be considered āgothā these days, you must give up on your skin color/race, since whiteness/paleness is the defining factorš¤·š½āāļø.
And ngl? I was pretty dumbfounded by it (around the pandemic). All these girls doing makeup tutorials or identifying as goths but they were listening to lil peep and Playboy Cartišš³ (or were hardcore racists). Like whaaaaaat.
But after a bit of research I realized that Playboy Carti dressed like that, matter of fact he created a whole fashion style (while borrowing some elements of goth/punk) which is: Opium fashion/ Opiumcore.
If Iām gonna be honest I fuck HEAVY with Playboy Cartiās style. (Not him, heās an abuser, and I donāt even listen to his music, I canāt name one song). But his stylistic choices?? The legacy of Opium black as fashion?? Itās fucking fantastic: I like it better than gothš„“š„“. And not only that but it offers black/darker skinned people a safe space to experiment with fashion without having to deal with the whole elitism of goth, or having to meddle in racists spaces like certain fandoms (Marilyn Manson, MSI, falling in reverse, black metal in general, lowkey most āemoā fandoms).
Because opium black is not a culture, itās a fashion sub-genre. And it doesnāt represent anybodyās values or ethical beliefs, not even Cartiās or Rick Owensā. Itās rather a trend initiated by someone who took an already existing visual language and transformed it into something different. Something detached from the elitism, historical weight and yes, whiteness.
I donāt see it as a bad thing at all. If anything, it means that more fashion brands are producing clothes like this, which means that maybe itād be easier for us to get itš«¶š½.
Lmao this is me, (circa 2010) and this outfit was GOTH to me LMAOOOOOOOO (of course itās just a black topšš) I cannot emphasize enough how HARD it was to get black childrenās clothes, specially for girls, also I was POOR afššš„²š„². I find this picture so funny and endearing bc I really believed I was Gwen from Total Dramaš„¹š.
Iām not even sure if that fully answers the question lmaaaaoššš.
I think the bottom line is: I find the whole "painting your face white every single day" just to prove youāre āgoth enoughā to be deeply bizarre. I think itās incredibly elitist and, honestly, lowkey racistš«¢.
Bc opiumcore? Itās objectively goth fashionš„“š«£, but it pretty much had to be given a new name just so black and darker-skinned people could experiment in peace without being harassed or told they "don't fit the aesthetic." Itās like the name change was necessary so white people wouldnāt feel de-centered or whatever.
And you see it in the language, too. Calling someone "alt" instead of "goth" is 99% of the times: racially coded. And itās fucking ridiculous bc some of them try to camouflage it so hard, but itās obvious that most of them measure their "gothicness" (for lack of a better term) according to "paleness" rather than the actual music.
Bc most of these "trad goths" on TikTok are blasting metal (black, death, nu, DSBM)š„“ not goth musicšµāš«š¤Ø aka The Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus, Cocteau Twinsš¤·š½āāļø.
Idk man, at the end of the day, Iām all for people experimenting with fashion and expressing themselves. We should be encouraging people to try new things instead of policing what they can or canāt beš¤·š½āāļø.
I wouldnāt call myself goth (even though I listen to goth music, read mostly horror books, dress in black clothes, wear dark makeup, have black short hair, whateverš¤Ŗš„“), bc I donāt feel ārepresentedā by them? lmao. But yāall already know I donāt fuck with labels at all, idk hope this answers your questionš¤·š½āāļøšš„“.
