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I really struggle with C.S. Lewisâ Mere Christianity.  Some kindly adult gave me a copy when I was about 15, and I didnât make it far in before giving up on it as non-sensical.  I didnât try again until last year, as an adult, and I still had a hard time getting through it.  Is it just me?  Iâm curious how others feel about the book.
Before I dive into this, here's some context: Iâm a non-cradle Episcopalian. Â I lean extremely high church. Â Iâm a (cis) lesbian. Â I love science. Â I see zero contradiction between these aspects of my self-identity. Â I grew up Methodist, got confirmed to please my family, and then promptly chucked religion because it didnât make any sense to me and I couldnât see the point. Â Then I aged some and realized that there are different types of making sense and that actually Christianity speaks to me in a pretty profound way, and now Iâm the kind of Episcopalian who prays the Hours and doesnât understand textual literalism. Â I do not have a background in theology or philosophy, but I read books sometimes and like to talk about them with people because learning is good.
Onward: I donât necessarily disagree with Lewisâ theology per se, itâs more the direction from which heâs coming at it, if that makes any sense. Â Book Two, âWhat Christians Believe," is the section that really throws me, and the below is really just about that section.
Lewis spends a lot of time in this section making rational arguments about religious âtruth,â including proving that a single Creator God exists, and itâs kind of a miss for me. His need to paint religious truths as inherently logical, in the scientific sense, and as something that can be derived using the scientific method, result in his reducing complicated, nuanced concepts (like âgoodâ and âbadâ) to simplistic ghosts of themselves. Â To be honest, the fact that heâs trying to âproveâ anything in the scientific sense disappointed me. Â Religion isnât science, and science isnât religion; each has its own sphere of truth, and each would do well to stay out of the otherâs sphere. Â Proofs like the above feel uncomfortably Venn-diagram-y to me, with science trying to do religion or vice versa. Â Thereâs a reason we go on about âMysteryâ; sometimes you canât science your way through something, and thatâs where religion comes in, because itâs a different kind of thing and provides or illuminates a different kind of truth.
(Also, Karen Armstrong addressed the religious truth vs. scientific truth thing really well in A Short History of Myth and The Case for God, and I want to send copies back in time to C.S. Lewis to see what heâd make of them. Â Iâm genuinely curious.)Â
Anyway, once he finishes proving a single creator god, he tries to logic his way through soteriology, specifically atonement.  Part of my struggle here is that Iâm not sure how literal heâs being.  Itâs like⌠you know how Marcus Borg had to write an entire book re-presenting commonly-used Christian words?  The previous chapters â with their emphasis on logic and rational arguments â make me wonder if maybe Lewis wasnât a bit of a literalist, in a way that Iâm not, and so maybe his words donât have the same shades of meaning that they have when I use them.  I agree with him on the surface, but if we pull the surface back, there may be a gulf between our different understandings.  This surprised me; I donât know why.
In the end, I think he just approaches the idea of religion, religious practice, and spirituality a little differently than I do, and I have a hard time connecting with his approach. Â Iâm an engineer, and I like cerebral arguments about things that both do and do not matter, but when it comes to religion, I canât wrap this sort of rational/scientific logic around it and have it still make sense to me. Â To define something is to limit it, and so I donât think logical, explicit definitions of things like salvation or the incarnation are useful. Â Clearly others do not have a hard time with his tack, though; this book has been selling well for about a billion years. Â And anyway, an alternative to logical definitions is to tell a story, and he did that in another series of books. Â Which I havenât read since I was about 10. Â Maybe I should re-read them and see how they sit.