#oh man this line is important #i need to discuss this sometimes well good morning I hope u r ready to discuss the 'forty thousand brothers' line please
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okay this actually ties into that gertrude meta I mentioned but I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS because itâs v important to me and I donât think Iâve ever talked about it before
okay so basically what this is is hamletâs massive problem with idealisation and demonisation. we see it with his dad, we see it with gertrude, and hooo boy do we see it with ophelia. basically hamlet tends to be very judgemental and decisive when it comes to how he sees the people around him - theyâre either bad guys or good guys. heâs extremely quick to condemn, but once someoneâs gone heâs extremely quick to (for want of a better word) romanticise.Â
with gertrude, we see an example of the demonisation. she does something that he perceives as wrong, and bang sheâs bad, sheâs wanton and disgusting and needs to be saved. I imagine hamlet always really loved his mother (SHUT UP FREUD) and once she lets him down that disgust and disappointment is all he can see, itâs all-consuming. he basically writes her off because of her remarriage. demonisation, friends. (although I have to say that my opinions regarding gertrude and hamlet as a child disgusted with a parentâs actions are kinda messed up atm because of personal circumstance. I understand that part of hamletâs mind a lot better now and so Iâm rethinking a lot of stuff to do with it!)
then youâve got pappy hamlet, who gets the opposite treatment - idealisation. now Iâm not saying old hamlet was a bad dad - anyone who suggests that hamletâs dad was disappointed in having a âââphilosopher sonââ is stupid - but I donât think he was the HELLA RAD AMAZING TOP OF THE POPS dad that hamlet makes him out to be. all that junk about his father being like miscellaneous gods (off the top of my head I remember mentions of mars, hyperion and jove) and all the other hyperbolic shit he says is not stuff he would have said while dad was alive. this is hamlet putting dead dad up on a pedestal now that heâs gone. when he was alive he was a good dad, a good king, a good guy. now he the BEST MAN TO EVER LIVE EVER PERIOD. idealisation.
(okay Iâm getting to that line now)
ophelia gets both treatments. when sheâs alive and he starts to think that sheâs against him and his thoughts on women are coloured by his view of his mother, he demonises her. this girl heâs probs been pretty sweet on in the past suddenly gets the blasting he gives her in the nunnery scene, because he now sees her as completely bad. but then! she dead!! and he goes from âi loved you notâ to âFORTY THOUSAND BROTHERS WITH ALL THEIR LOVE CANNOT MAKE UP MY SUMâ (or something). thatâs a pretty radical change!! because now that sheâs dead sheâs getting what I call the pappy hamlet treatment - total and utter idealisation. okay some people think the stuff in the graveyard was an act, but I think by this part of the play heâs moved past all that bullshit and that this is genuine. now that opheliaâs dead, sheâs become this pure wonderful angel whom he loved with all his heart.
and thatâs why that line is important! because itâs the clearest example of hamletâs idealisation problem, which I think is a key to his character!
also kinda side note - I quite like the idea that this idealisation/demonisation comes from a borderline personality disorder, which is characterised by âblack and white thinkingâ (as well as âinstability of affect (emotions)â and âunusually intense sensitivityâ). if youâll permit me to quote wikipedia, âpeople with BPD often engage in idealization and devaluation of others, alternating between high positive regard and great disappointmentâ like is that literally what I just spent x amount of words trying to articulate or what. like okay seriously when I did a psychology paper at uni and bpd came up I was like âHAMLET. THIS IS HAMLET.â















