@combeferre replied to your text post: i mean, i think the main reason is that it is a good concept and baseline story but it needs that additional information, and really the only examples I saw were fantasy/historical novels. but ftr, these were "started at 80-90k and ended at 120-135kâ
Makes sense! Historical and fantasy are allowed longer counts generally. My guess would be too that editors like to have space for what they think should be added. My goal is to get into the high 120s, cause this is def not a 90k book as I have it envisioned now, so weâll see!
@mumblingsage replied to your text post: I was just going to say what combeferre said. Good luck & strength with the cutting now! Be sure to save deleted stuff in another file.
Thank you! And oh yeah, I am keeping and have saved the other drafts with the scenes still in there, and THEN have a file with all the deleted scenes. My librarian brain is a good hand here! :D
@laughingmistress replied to your text post: you know what i find super weird about the word count thing? Loads of books with the most rabid fan followings are really long and full of tangents ...uh...LOTR? but then, you're talking to the Les Mis fandom here, so...LOL
Yeah, itâs true! I think the thing they say is âyou can do whatever you want when youâre established but not on your debut novelâ so theyâre harsher on first-time published novelists in that way. IDK, I donât pick up a book that sounds interesting and then not read it cause I think it looks too thick? But they seem to feel readers will do that with books if they havenât heard of the author before. They use the example of like, JK Rowlingâs first books were shorter and then as she went on got longer, which makes a certain amount of sense, though then you see like, Patrick Rothfussâ debut which was 200,000 + words (my third book in the trilogy is that long, but the first two are definitely not even close, and I could divide that third one in two if I needed) but itâs weird for me coming from one, a fandom space where people swallow really long fics whole in a week, and also just as someone who likes longer stories.Â