#monstertemple

Comparison: General Monsters vs. Septarians in Star vs. the Forces of Evil

Appearance:

General Monsters: Extremely diverse — frog-like (Buff Frog), bird-like, multi-limbed, plant-based, demonic (Tom Lucitor), giant size-shifters (Globgor), bearicorn hybrids, and many more animalistic or fantastical forms.

Septarians: Sleek, humanoid reptilian lizards with blue/green skin, muscular builds, dark hair (often slicked back), sharp features, and yellow eyes. They have a more refined, almost "business-like" aesthetic (e.g., Toffee in suits).

Abilities:

General Monsters: Powers vary widely by individual — size manipulation, super strength, fire breath (Tom), minor magic, or no special abilities at all. Most are mortal and can be injured/killed normally.

Septarians: Signature rapid regeneration that allows them to regrow entire limbs and organs almost instantly, granting near-immortality. They also possess enhanced strength, durability, and combat prowess. Only Eclipsa's "darkest spell" or total disintegration can permanently kill them.

Lifespan/Immortality:

General Monsters: Normal lifespans; they age and die like most beings (though some species, like demons, may live longer).

Septarians: Effectively immortal due to regeneration; they can survive for centuries and hold grudges across generations (Toffee planned revenge over decades).

Society/Culture:

General Monsters: Live in scattered villages, the Monster Temple, or wilderness areas. Many are family-oriented and community-focused; later seasons show them seeking peace and equality under Eclipsa.

Septarians: Originate from the hidden, advanced city of Septarsis. More militaristic, sophisticated, and isolationist; known for extreme ruthlessness and long-term plotting.

Reputation:

General Monsters: Lumped together and discriminated against by Mewmans as "barbaric" or "inferior," despite many being peaceful or reformed (e.g., Buff Frog becomes an ally).

Septarians: Feared and distrusted by both Mewmans and other monsters due to their cunning, vengeful nature, and history of aggression.

Notable Examples:

General Monsters: Buff Frog, Globgor, Tom Lucitor, Ludo's various minions (bearicorns, rat soldiers), Meat Fork, residents of the Monster Temple.

Septarians: Toffee (master manipulator), Rasticore (regenerating bounty hunter), Seth (ancient warmonger).

Role in the Story:

General Monsters: Primarily portrayed as victims of Mewman colonialism and racism; many become allies fighting for integration and rights.

Comparison: Septarians vs. General Monsters vs. Magic High Commission (MHC) vs. Demons in Star vs. the Forces of Evil

Appearance:

Septarians: Humanoid reptilian lizards with sleek blue/green skin, muscular physiques, dark slicked-back hair, sharp features, and yellow eyes. Often dressed sophisticatedly (e.g., Toffee in suits).

General Monsters: Extremely diverse and animalistic — frog-like, bearicorn hybrids, multi-headed beasts, avian, plant-based, giant size-shifters (Globgor), etc. No unified look.

Magic High Commission (MHC): Mostly humanoid with magical/fantasy traits — Rhombulus (crystal-headed snake man), Omnitraxus Prime (cosmic skull in void), Hekapoo (red-skinned forge demon with horns and fire hair), Lekmet (goat-like chancellor). Glossaryn is a blue humanoid.

Demons: Primarily humanoid with red/orange skin, horns (varying sizes), multiple eyes (Tom has three), pointed ears, and fiery elements. Tom Lucitor is a classic example — red skin, small horns, suit-wearing.

Abilities:

Septarians: Near-immortality via ultra-fast regeneration (regrow limbs/organs instantly); enhanced strength, durability, and combat skill. Only total disintegration or Eclipsa's darkest spell can kill them permanently.

General Monsters: Highly varied — size manipulation (Globgor), super strength, minor elemental powers, or none at all. Most are mortal and vulnerable to normal injury.

MHC: Immense magical power tied to their roles — Rhombulus crystallizes threats, Hekapoo forges dimensions and clones, Omnitraxus manipulates space-time, Lekmet heals/sacrifices life force, Glossaryn controls glossaryck/magic knowledge. Effectively immortal until killed (e.g., by Mina or magic destruction).

Demons: Fire-based pyrokinesis (Tom's primary power), emotional rage amplification (Tom's "Nap Time" mode), underworld magic, levitation. Strong but tied to anger/emotions.

Lifespan/Immortality:

Septarians: Effectively immortal due to regeneration; can live centuries and hold multi-generational grudges.

General Monsters: Normal lifespans; age and die like most beings.

MHC: Extremely long-lived or immortal by design (created/empowered by Glossaryck or ancient magic); only destroyed by external force or magic erasure.

Demons: Very long-lived (Tom's parents are ancient); implied near-immortality in the underworld dimension.

Society/Culture:

Septarians: Militaristic, isolationist, hidden city (Septarsis); vengeful and extremist, focused on long-term revenge against Mewmans.

General Monsters: Scattered villages and Monster Temple; family-oriented, historically oppressed; seek equality and peace under Eclipsa.

MHC: Bureaucratic council serving the Butterfly monarchy; uphold "order" and magical law, often through authoritarian means.

Demons: Underworld kingdom with royal hierarchy (Lucitor family); party culture mixed with anger management issues; aggressive but capable of diplomacy.

Reputation & Attitude Toward Monsters:

Septarians: Feared by both Mewmans and other monsters as ruthless extremists; view themselves as superior victims seeking retribution.

General Monsters: Discriminated against by Mewmans as "barbaric"; many are peaceful victims of colonialism.

MHC: Deeply racist toward monsters despite not being human/Mewman themselves — view monsters as chaotic threats to order. Rhombulus crystallizes them preemptively; Hekapoo and Omnitraxus support erasure campaigns. Their hypocrisy is bizarre: non-human magical beings enforcing Mewman supremacy.

Demons: Generally neutral or aggressive toward everyone when provoked; Tom is friends with monsters (e.g., Buff Frog) and dates Star (Mewman). No systemic racism toward monsters — more class/anger-based conflicts.

Notable Examples:

Septarians: Toffee, Rasticore, Seth of Septarsis.

General Monsters: Buff Frog, Globgor, Meat Fork, Ludo's minions, Monster Temple residents.

MHC: Rhombulus, Hekapoo, Omnitraxus Prime, Lekmet, Glossaryck (sometimes aligned).

Demons: Tom Lucitor, Wrathmelior Lucitor (father), Dave Lucitor (mother).

Role in the Story:

Septarians: Major antagonists with personal vendettas against Butterfly family; drive corruption of magic and historical wars.

General Monsters: Victims seeking rights and integration; allies in later seasons.

MHC: Corrupt enforcers of the status quo; betray Eclipsa, support genocidal policies against monsters, ultimately destroyed or depowered.

"For Mina in Star vs. the Forces of Evil, I wonder how long it would have taken to find other armor without Moon's help, since it can be recovered."

Analysis using canon from the Star vs. the Forces of Evil wiki and show details:

In Star vs. the Forces of Evil (SVTFOE), Mina Loveberry is an ancient Solarian Warrior, originally transformed by Queen Solaria Butterfly centuries ago using the Solarian Metamorphosis spell. This gives her superhuman strength, durability, and a "hulked-out" super-soldier form even without external gear.

The "armor" refers to the gigantic magical suits used by Solarian Warriors — massive, building-sized mechs with powerful energy swords that negate magic and cause lingering fatal wounds.

Canon evidence:

After Eclipsa's rise to power, Mina independently begins rebuilding the Solarian army. She collects remnants/scattered pieces of the old gigantic suits of armor from around Mewni (as stated directly on the Solarian Warriors page of the SVTFOE Fandom wiki).

She recruits dissatisfied Mewman peasants and has her crow Sebastian assemble/rebuild these suits.

Mina is shown actively gathering and scavenging these remnants on her own before approaching Moon.

Moon's help comes later: Moon performs (or assists with) the Solarian Metamorphosis spell to empower the new recruits into full Solarian Warriors and activates/enhances their powers and armor.

Without Moon's help (i.e., no new spell to empower additional warriors):

Mina could still recover and reuse the existing remnant armors herself, as she was already doing.

She would likely have a smaller force (perhaps just herself in a rebuilt suit, plus any old remnants she could salvage for limited use).

Time estimate: Canon shows Mina progressing quickly on her own (scavenging across Mewni). It might have taken her weeks to months to fully recover and assemble enough for a personal super-powered suit or a very small group, rather than the rapid large-scale army she builds with Moon's magical boost.

The armors are explicitly recoverable/reusable remnants from the ancient war, not destroyed permanently unless actively demolished in battle (e.g., by powerful spells like Eclipsa's).