John Ylvisaker (editor) - Songs for Saints - Concordia - 1976 (The Lutheran Church/Missouri Synod)

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John Ylvisaker (editor) - Songs for Saints - Concordia - 1976 (The Lutheran Church/Missouri Synod)

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The Lutherans They Warned You About
I found this meme today, and it made me smile, so I thought I'd share it. (I don't know who created it, unfortunately, or I'd credit them.) However, some of the comments below the post (it was on a Facebook meme page) were pretty negative, and it made me sad to see such anger over something designed to be funny and relatively inoffensive.
For me, the meme is funny because while there are obviously differences between the Missouri Synod, Wisconsin Synod, LCC (Lutheran Church in Canada, which also has some churches in the Northern US, if I'm not mistaken, which I might be) and the ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, my denomination), we agree on most things and the liturgy is essentially the same. We are all Lutherans, after all. The differences between us are mostly on how the church should be run as an organization, how it should interact with the world, and what its stance on social issues should be. There are some doctrinal differences, but many of them aren't really scripturally based (though this is obviously a point of contention, as I'm sure some people would argue that they are, as is their right, since we are all called to study and believe in the Bible for ourselves) and to me, they're not as important as the things we agree on.
So for me, this meme is funny because we actually agree on most things, but yet we still tend to act very insular. To me, it's funny the same way that horror over a Catholic-Protestant marriage is funny. Obviously, it may not be as easy as a marriage where both people are the same denomination, but it's perfectly doable, and many people do it sucessfully. And yet, some people still panic about it. Similarly, within the Lutheran church, we tend to get rather aggressive about our sub-denominations, even though we have little reason to.
I was having a wander through some meme pages and Facebook groups related to Christianity, and I was surprised to learn that almost of the Lutheran ones were explictly or implicity for Missouri Synod or Confessional Lutherans, and some contained memes making fun of the ELCA. (All in good fun, and mostly inoffensively, I think one of them was about how we're afraid of crucifixes, which is a fair point, we kind of are.) Within the rules and posting guidelines of one of the pages, there was something about not posting anything anti-Confessional Lutheran, with the admins saying that some people from the ELCA had been attempting to post things making fun of the Confessional Lutherans. The way it was written implied the the ELCA had somehow snuck in to sabatoge the page. This struck me as hilarious, mostly because in my experience, no group of people have less of an agenda than the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. I like to jokingly say that the ELCA really took Matthew 6:5-6 to heart (for those interested: And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.) Many of the Lutheran churches I know do incredible work in their communities and in collecting for charities like Lutheran World Relief, and never publicize either of these things. We generally keep a very low profile, both online and irl, and I would argue that we’re not hurting anyone by quietly and politely disagreeing with the Missouri Synod et al.Â
Despite this, people from these meme pages seemed to veiw the ELCA as at best, slightly misguided, and at worst, actively undermining the faith. In general, there seemed to be a vibe of paranoia about the ELCA as “ruining” Lutheranism and trying to drag everyone down with them, despite the fact that the ELCA is the largest and most widespread Lutheran denomination in the US, and from our perspective, is mainstream Lutheranism. Many ELCA Lutherans (especially those who do not live in the Midwest) are only peripherally aware of the other denominations, so the idea that we are some sort of insidious faction is a little ridiculous. The idea that one group of Lutherans are the “real” Lutherans and all the others are wrong is also a little ridiculous. Do I disagree with most of the other Lutheran denominations? Of course I do. I didn’t, there wouldn’t be a need for different denominations. Do I think they are wrong about some things? Yes, very strongly. But are they still Lutherans? Of course they are. Because of this, the amount of online negativity coming from these groups is really disheartening, particularly since it’s just bouncing around in a echo chamber of people who already are predisposed to think that way. If this were part of a larger inter-denominational dialogue, that would be one thing, but since the ELCA has such a minimal online presence, and is actively banned from some of these groups, it just serves to amplify negativity.Â
While I do think the ELCA needs a bigger and better online existence, I don’t think a meme war is the way to sort things out, as interesting as that would be. I do wish that the ELCA would make more overtures to the other denominations in the US and try to promote public discussion, which would hopefully bring some of this negativity to light and allow it to be examined by both sides, so that we could all ask ourselves if this is the sort of image we want the world to see. I also pray that everyone might see the way to resolving some of their differences. Just to explain how strong the divide currently is, I can currently take communion at Anglican/Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Methodist, United Church of Christ, Reformed, and Moravian Churches. You know where I can’t take communion? Missouri Synod Churches. Something about that seems a little off. Hopefully, it won’t be that way forever.Â
A Walk to Chicago. A highlight of the period before the establishment of the Missouri Synod Lutheran Churches in this area was in April of 1847, when Rev. George K. Schuster walked from Bremen to Chicago with a lay delegate to the organization meeting of the Missouri Synod, which was from April 25 to May 9. Pastor Schuster ministered to congregations in Kosciusko and Marshall Counties, but his post office address was Mishawaka, Indiana. He organized the St. Peter Lutheran Church in Mishawaka in 1847. (Photo courtesy of Frank Ronchetti)
With all these articles following the #IStandWithNikki campaign, I’m amazed by the lack of administration response.Â
At Scholastica, we are trying to carve out our niche in the health sciences field. We do it because that’s what’s going to bring in more students and put our names on the charts.
At Concordia, it seems like they’re trying to carve out their own niche in the discrimination game. They’re getting publicity for it. Everyone is standing by their decisions. Almost like this really who they want to be. Honestly.
Why not just come out with it full force. Have a banner that proclaims yourself as “THE LAST STRONGHOLD AGAINST THE QUEERS” or some bullshit. Make sure that all your representatives include it in their speeches they give at local high schools. Put it on your website. Put it in your flyers.Â
Stop trying to pretend like this is anything but what it is.Â

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Happy Birthday LCMS!
This Sunday is the birthday of The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod! Â St Paul will be celebrating this day with a special Temple Talk, led by Pastor Tom Noon.
Please join us at 9:30 in the Fellowship Hall!
 Oh, and since Mr Gaddis broke the griddle, maybe this is how he’ll be making breakfast…
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What is the Missouri Synod's response to the anti-Semitic statements made by Luther?
http://www.lcms.org/faqs/lcmsviews
A: While The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod holds Martin Luther in high esteem for his bold proclamation and clear articulation of the teachings of Scripture, it deeply regrets and deplores statements made by Luther which express a negative and hostile attitude toward the Jews. In light of the many positive and caring statements concerning the Jews made by Luther throughout his lifetime, it would not be fair on the basis of these few regrettable (and uncharacteristic) negative statements, to characterize the reformer as "a rabid anti-Semite." The LCMS, however, does not seek to "excuse" these statements of Luther, but denounces them (without denouncing Luther's theology). In 1983, the Synod adopted an official resolution addressing these statements of Luther and making clear its own position on anti-Semitism. The text of this resolution reads as follows:
WHEREAS, Anti-Semitism and other forms of racism are a continuing problem in our world; and WHEREAS, Some of Luther's intemperate remarks about the Jews are often cited in this connection; and WHEREAS, It is widely but falsely assumed that Luther's personal writings and opinions have some official status among us (thus, sometimes implying the responsibility of contemporary Lutheranism for those statements, if not complicity in them); but also WHEREAS, It is plain from scripture that the Gospel must be proclaimed to all people--that is, to Jews also, no more and no less than to others (Matt. 28:18-20); and WHEREAS, This Scriptural mandate is sometimes confused with anti-Semitism; therefore be it Resolved, That we condemn any and all discrimination against others on account of race or religion or any coercion on that account and pledge ourselves to work and witness against such sins; and be it further Resolved, That we reaffirm that the bases of our doctrine and practice are the Scriptures and the Lutheran Confessions and not Luther, as such; and be it further Resolved, That while, on the one hand, we are deeply indebted to Luther for his rediscovery and enunciation of the Gospel, on the other hand, we deplore and disassociate ourselves from Luther's negative statements about the Jewish people, and, by the same token, we deplore the use today of such sentiments by Luther to incite anti-Christian and/or anti-Lutheran sentiment; and be it further Resolved, That in our teaching and preaching we take care not to confuse the religion of the Old Testament (often labeled "Yahwism") with the subsequent Judaism, nor misleadingly speak about "Jews" in the Old Testament ("Israelites" or "Hebrews" being much more accurate terms), lest we obscure the basic claim of the New Testament and of the Gospel to being in substantial continuity with the Old Testament and that the fulfillment of the ancient promises came in Jesus Christ; and be it further Resolved, That we avoid the recurring pitfall of recrimination (as illustrated by the remarks of Luther and many of the early church fathers) against those who do not respond positively to our evangelistic efforts; and be it finally Resolved, That, in that light, we personally and individually adopt Luther's final attitude toward the Jewish people, as evidenced in his last sermon: "We want to treat them with Christian love and to pray for them, so that they might become converted and would receive the Lord" (Weimar edition, Vol. 51, p. 195).
This Lutheran Pastor is obviously ELCA; Missouri Synod would not put up with Moby and Bruno Mars and let's be honest, put up w/ really anything fun in church...
That's my peeps, ELCA Lutherans*--Liberal and open-minded and a bit much to take in large doses. ;)
*Well. at least on Easter and Christmas ;)