#martyr classes

Knights and Mages are fairly similar, particularly when you’re looking at them from the perspective of someone who’s trying to figure out which one applies to them. The core difference is basically that, in a vacuum (and when not talking about Blood) Knights work well when they have something that they can fight about, while Mages deliberately try to avoid or end conflicts by giving up things that mean less to them than not having to waste time fighting people. “Fight” here can mean literally punching someone, but more often than not it means correcting someone’s insensitive language or confronting a roommate about the dangers raised by their poor dental hygiene.

Conversely, Mages are much more ready to do seemingly self-destructive things for either their own sake or the sake of another party, making them seem braver in terms of actually getting things done. A Knight would have to force themselves to actually do half of the things that come as second nature to a Mage. If you find yourself beating yourself up over feeling scared and chickening out on something, you’re probably more on the Knight side of the spectrum.

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot to mention that I wouldn’t put too much stock in rlabs’ quiz-- it doesn’t incorporate much personality wise. The other quiz out there (Land of Celebration and Bells, I think), is actually tied to a personality archetype system, but I think it’s a little dated* and doesn’t necessarily attach classes to archetypes that actually correspond to them.

 Because of deep-rooted insecurities about interacting with other people and being vulnerable, Knights tend to sustain “strong” personas that resemble exaggerated caricatures of their aspect’s values. For Hope, these values are things like being able to understand and explain things, “higher” passions like art and science (as opposed to sex and drugs), and self-restraint. A Knight of Hope would make an effort to appear as a sort of enlightened figure, while an Heir would just kind of be one if he was doing well, and be more like a jerk with no self-control if he wasn’t.

Aight, it’s been a while, but here we are. Thanks for bearing with me!

Rogues and Heirs both accomplish similar kinds of goals, but are expected to take very different paths to get there. Heirs are asked to be chaste, fair and honest rulers, and tend to be bestowed with information and power that allows them to help solve the problems of other people. As a personality type, Heirs rarely initiate action for their own sake, but are quick to move if somebody else needs something done. In terms of morality, there is the question of who (or what) they should place their trust in. Examples of Heirs in popular media include Harry Potter, Steven Universe, Aang (from Avatar: The Last Airbender), and Gunnerkrigg Court’s Smitty.

Rogues, on the other hand, are much more active as people. If we look at the world in terms of imbalances, Heirs are the kind of people who will give things up (and inspire others to give things up) if they’re shown an imbalance, and otherwise kind of dick around with whatever’s around them. Rogues have an imbalance coded into their personality. On one end is a sense of greed, a desire for something that they don’t currently have. This doesn’t have to be a material object– some Rogues want to have love, or vengeance on some enemy.

Without spoiling things too much for those of you who haven’t yet watched Puella Magi Madoka Magica (you should), Homura Akemi is pretty solidly a Mage. She’s brusque and antisocial, but aids and protects others when she can, and has no compunctions about throwing herself into serious danger for the sake of others when she has to. Inevitability is the oppressive and overbearing presence in her life, so I’m inclined to agree with Time too.

that-killer-chic asked:

Could you perhaps explain Mage of Void?

Mage of Void

Mages are best described as “one who sacrifices.” Their quests tend to be grueling, tragic affairs that (when successfully completed) end in a flavour of victory that is less victorious and more… tolerable. Rather than triumphing over all obstacles and achieving their core aim, a Mage must learn their limits and learn to redefine what their aims really are. In many ways, a Mage’s quest is more about learning what really matters in life than any other class.

The Void aspect governs, as I’m sure you’ve heard, nothingness. It occupies a niche in world of philosophy that is concerned with what we, as individual and free-thinking agents, ought to do if we are presented with absolute moral freedom. Unlike most systems of ethics, the Void aspect’s belief in the importance of an individual’s own unique volition makes it unsuited to providing its adherents with a code of conduct. In fact, you could say that this inability is the whole point of Void.

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Mage of Light

The Mage class is largely governed by the axis of greed versus generosity. Despite its position as an active class, Mages are required by their arcs to deprive themselves in order to help others, with the twist being that their act of sacrifice will prove to help them or their cause far more than whatever it was that they wound up needing to give away. A conflict between what they want and what they need is par for the course when it comes to this class.

The Light aspect governs significance on a cosmic scale. Its conception of a god is as one who defines objective meaning across the universe, and they see this definitive purpose as reflected in all events, words and deeds. As people, they are frequently ambitious, and they can be quite self-important; they see the world in terms of stories, and of course they would be the Chosen One.

(Note: the above question was in response to my recent suggestion that Jesus was an Heir of Breath.)

The Airy Kid

I see Heir as the passive martyr class; what this means is that, not only does the Heir sacrifice things for the good of others, but his acts of sacrifice themselves inspire and allow others to make sacrifices of their own.

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In my opinion, part of being an Heir is proving yourself worthy of receiving all those sacrifices; I imagine that a Mage would see other people as deserving/needing concessions on their part. Sollux was always a crusty asshole on the outside, but deep down he had a very giving spirit; and Meulin is very transparent when it comes to her care for others.

As a corollary (been wanting to use that word all week :b), I'm inclined to reword Heir as something like "they view others as mysterious benefactors who keep on giving even when they're down on luck". The unnecessary baggage thing is definitely accurate, it's just that this heightens the parallels between the two classes.