tbh idk why people hate the idea of lucifer and chloe being seperated til she dies so much? like it's not the same ofc but my mom died when i was 16 and if i absolutely knew i would see her again when i die and would be with her forever then i would feel at peace with being separated for what is a relatively short time compared to eternal life.
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Chloe Decker wasnāt a gift for Lucifer, she was a gift to the world, her making Lucifer a better man and subsequently a better God was just a side effect of the goodness she brought into the world by existing. In this essay I will-
I hope next season Danās friends will be able to tell him how much he means to them, especially Maze and Lucifer. Cause as much as they acted like they didnāt care his death crushed them. Also that Dan and Charlotte are together because I think that would make those two the happiest.
Look, maybe some people have gotten over the way Maze sobbed over that NSYNC t-shirt, but I sure haven't.
Since Dan being in Hell was a catalyst for Lucifer's realization that the whole system is unjust, I am sure he'll play a role in S6's arc. And given the intense emotion shown by everyone who loves(d) him, I'm sure conversations will be had.
Dan's arc is so freaking fascinating. I mean, I hated the guy in S1. I'm pretty sure I was actually okay with thinking Malcolm had killed him.
I reluctantly started to like him in S2 ... and that just grew until, y'know, I spent last Friday ugly-crying into a pillow. And of course Dan has to be the one to show us (and Lucifer) how wrong the system is. We know Dan is a good guy. We know he's grown. We know he took his second chance and used it to become a better man. We love him, and we know he doesn't belong in an eternity of pain and torture for mistakes he made and atoned for--but for which he couldn't forgive himself.
He's an echo of Lucifer: the pain, the suffering, the rebellion, the impatience, the guilt, the self-loathing. So, if we're uncomfortable with the idea of Lucifer returning to Hell (and we should be; he doesn't want to be there), we should be just as uncomfortable at the thought of Dan there.
I think something Lucifer and Maze's reactions to Dan's death show so well is how potent personal connections are. It makes things more real.
Even with the ribbing and the occasional animosity and jabs and shootings and epic prankings ... Dan is family. Dan is like a brother to Lucifer, to Maze. The kind of brother that sometimes drives you crazy. The kind of brother a stranger might think you dislike if they heard you speaking about him out of context. But in Lucifer and Maze's world, that like-calling-to-like of darkness, of struggle, of violence is familial. Like, Lucifer may call him Detective Douche, but if anyone else said it, he'd go full Devil-face on them. You can tease your own family, but god forbid some outsider is mean. It's like Maze's "No one calls my skank a skank" line.
Oh, this last season. It so brilliantly showed so many different flavors of love and affection. And Lucifer and Maze, especially, highlighted this variety so beautifully.
And yeah. Dan needs to know that. He needs to know that he belonged in the weird messed up found family we've all come to love just as much as the others do. He deserves to know that he wasn't just tolerated, he was loved.
And of course he and Charlotte deserve to be together. <3
Okay so Iām gonna put some thoughts out there before s5b drops. I havenāt watched the trailer but I do know a few minor spoilers. I will be tagging everything i watch/react to under #lucifer spoilers. OKAy lets go.
Things I want:
I want more soft Lucifer and Chloe. I want them to have some real, maybe difficult conversations, and grow even closer. (i wouldnāt say no to seeing some cuddles). i want to see them COMFORTABLE and IN LOVE.
i know its probably impossible but wing touching OR devil form touching.Ā
Apparently this is controversial, but I want Lucifer and his dad to reconcile. That doesnāt mean I think one party is innocent over the other. I donāt want Chloe punching god in the face or everyone spitting mad about his appearance. I want there to be growth and acknowledgment of faults on both sides (and pinned on Michael lol). I want Lucifer and Godās relationship to be okay.Ā
Maze to actually break the pattern of behavior sheās been stuck in since s1. Stop siding with bad guys, Mazikeen!! Go find Eve and kiss her!
A reveal for Ella!
I would like to see Michael have some comeuppance (unless he somehow shows himself to be redeemable, cause idk if he's EVIL evil or if he's a sort of parallel to Lucifer, isolated and disliked. Could be some potential there or he could just be a dick)
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A: Chloe becomes immortal, they live on earth forever with occasional visits to heaven to see their human friends and family.
B: Lucifer becomes mortal, they live out their lives on earth, grow old together and die. Then they both reunite in heaven.
C: They separate because he's God now and, because he feels he can't be selfish anymore, he wants to put the universe's faith before his own happiness. He also wants her to live a normal life because he loves her too much and wants her to have that. When she dies, they reunite in heaven.
D: Chloe dies (again), he's devastated, but as he has redeemed himself, they reunite in heaven.
E: Lucifer dies / sacrifices himself. She's devastated, but still lives a long life because that's what he would have wanted and they reunite in heaven.
So, basically, every scenario I can imagine ends with them together at some point. Which is comforting, in a way. However, I don't really know which option is favorite at the moment. Leaning towards A or B, but can't really decide.
Now that we've got all of season 5 and season 6 is somewhere on the horizon, here are some thoughts about what the final season might look like and where I would personally like to see the characters go.
This posts contains no spoilers or BTS information for season 6. I don't know anything beyond a couple interviews with writers and cast members. Everything here is purely speculation. If you have been following BTS and have speculations based on them, kindly do not spoil me here.
Warning! This assumes you've watched all of Lucifer 5B. Do not read unless you've seen the latest episodes.
Ella
I get that season 5 was all about Dan's journey of discovering and coming to terms with the truth about the celestial world. Thinking about season 5 as a whole, it made sense not to do an Ella reveal, which would have only taken the focus off of Dan's arc. I very much get it and I agree that was the best choice to make. That being said: let Ella find out the truth. If Chloe is leaving the LAPD and they're not going to have homicide cases every episode, then Ella's role as case-of-the-week-infodump is obsolete.
I'd love to see a reveal that does not hinge on Lucifer's identity; ideally, I would love for them to bring back Azrael again and have the reveal happen through her. Season 5 went to great pains to establish that Boo Normal is canon; if that's the case, then they need to follow through on the rest of what that episode set up. Ella's life has been deeply impacted by interacting with Azrael. She's struggled with thinking she's crazy and dealing with her darkness, and all of that stems from that relationship. There are plenty of shows that throw out reveals for everybody by the end of the run; I don't think that is the case with Ella. At this point, it is doing a disservice to Ella's character not to do a reveal for her.
Dan
Dan died so that we could watch him get stuck in a Hell loop and find his way out of it. We know it's possible, since Lee is now in Heaven, and now it's Dan's turn. Of all the characters, Dan's story is the clearest to me in terms of how to move it forward. It's a natural continuation of the arc that was established in 5B.
This is a chance for Dan to relive his mistakes, realize he's in Hell, and then work on getting past it. The show is quite firm that Dan has to be the one to get himself out of Hell. I imagine we might see Lucifer (or others) visit Dan in Hell and try to guide him out, but I don't think it's as easy as picking up his soul and plonking it in Heaven. It has to come from him.
Maze
I enjoyed Maze's reaction to her newfound soul. She wanted a soul, she got one, and then whoops, actually, having a soul is really hard and uncomfortable and maybe she didn't realize what she was in for and now she wants off this rollercoaster.
I would like to see an exploration of what having a soul means for her. If she can self-actualize a soul, what does that mean for her brothers and sisters down in Hell? Are all demons capable of manifesting a soul? The show set up Mazikeen, Queen of Hell, but I don't know they'll actually follow through with that. If they reform Hell, ruling it may not be what Maze thinks it is. Less torture, more reform.
Amenadiel
We know that Amenadiel is all set to join the police force, and the show wants to discuss BLM and examine its role as copaganda. All of this has the support of its writers and cast and I think it's an important story to tell. They touched briefly on the subject in S4 but, much like Brooklyn Nine Nine, came down on the side of "a few bad apples". This is a good opportunity to course correct and really dig deep into the issue, and Amenadiel is the only character who can do that.
Aside from his role in the police, I would like to see more of Amenadiel, his relationship with raising a human son, and his struggle between being a celestial and living amongst humans. Will living on Earth be a permanent decision?
Linda
We know that Linda is displaying some (not unreasonable) helicopter parenting. I would love to see Linda come to terms with that and examine how she can't control every aspect of Charlie's life, and that sometimes she has to let him fall.
I would also enjoy seeing Adriana return, and maybe explore how their relationship could develop. That would be a good way for Linda to dig into her guilt associated with abandoning Adriana.
Michael
I don't need a Michael redemption arc, and to be honest I don't think the show is interested in doing one, but I want to see Michael doing his forced, wingless penance on earth amongst the beings he despises. Maybe we'll see him briefly haunting the bar at Lux or trying to run a taco truck.
Trixie
Trixie is a hard character to predict, simply because Scarlett is not able to be in all the episodes, or even most of them. (She was in 5 out of 16 episodes in season 5, and no doubt even fewer in season 6 due to COVID.) So I recognize right off the bat that my wishlist for Trixie most likely will not come to pass for reasons that have nothing to do with the writers. She will probably spend most of the season offscreen visiting her grandparents.
What I would love to see is Trixie dealing with losing her father, probably by lashing out at Lucifer and/or Chloe. I loved the Chloe & Trixie bonding we got in season 5, and would love more in season 6. It would also be great to see Trixie in therapy to deal with these issues. I don't think that a reveal for her is necessary (although I do headcanon that she already knows), but I would like to see her resolve her issues with Lucifer and come to terms with him a parental figure who is not a replacement for her father.
Chloe
My girl. So, what does it mean to be a consultant for God? I don't know, and Lucifer & Chloe didn't seem to know either. She's leaving the LAPD, so her story does not have to be tied to a case of the week. That being said, is she going to be involved with police cases at all, as a consultant, or even a PI? Her story is very much tied to Lucifer's at this point, so it's hard to separate the two, but it would be interesting to see a Chloe-centric episode: what life is like when Lucifer isn't there.
Chloe has said several times that Lucifer makes her a better detective; I like to think that for Lucifer, Chloe makes him a better God. She has a strong sense of justice, right and wrong; I think it's important for her to continue challenging Lucifer and his decisions.
(So happy for Chloe that she's been promoted to God!)
I'm not interested in seeing a Deckerstar wedding (and I think Lucifer putting his ring on her finger was the closest thing to that happening) but they've fought so hard for each other. It would be nice to see the two of them enjoying being a couple. I don't ask for much! Some cuddles. An omelet. No backsliding.
Lucifer
Godifer has some choices to make. What exactly are his newly-actualized powers? Does he have all the omnis? If he does, what does that mean for his relationships with everyone else, and especially Chloe? How does he go about ruling the universe now that he's got the job? How is he going to reform Hell?
Season 5 left Lucifer in a good place, emotionally. Becoming God brings in a lot of new lessons to be learned.
Episodes I would like to see, in no particular order:
Lucifer puts himself into a groundhog day scenario because everything goes wrong and he keeps resetting the day to try again; Lucifer learns a valuable lesson that he can't control everything.
Lucifer tries to stop everyone from worshipping him; his divine appearances and miracles go unnoticed or mocked online. I don't know what the lesson would be, I just think it would be funny.
Lucifer tries to do something good, like save a life, which has unintended negative consequences later down the line; he learns that he can't interfere all the time, even if it means that people will suffer and die because of it.
Some of Lucifer's siblings (who were not invited to the super exclusive archangel voting ceremony) are unhappy with Lucifer being God and stage a mini-rebellion. Lucifer gains a new appreciation for his father.
Ever since I saw the s5b trailer, Iāve been thinking some Thoughts⢠about where the show is going, where these charactersā journeys of self-discovery will lead, so on and so forth. Putting aside my Deckerstar fears (which, hello theme of the season ā āthatās all they are, fearsā), I want to talk about the plot theyāve introduced with the return of God, and more specifically, who I believe will actually ābecome God.ā (Though can an angel just assume this roleā¦? Iām getting ahead of myself.)
For the first time in millennia (possibly ever), God has touched down to earth. This unexpected visit is fraught with tension and unease for a myriad of reasons: Why now? How come God hasnāt reached out before? What does this mean for everyone? What does this mean for Lucifer? Why did God do what he did? Why, why, whyā¦Ā
Already, Lucifer is trying to navigate his new-and-fragile relationship with Chloe and deal with Michael, The First Fearmonger, who is still lingering about. Thereās no doubt about the inevitable internal turmoil Lucifer will experience with facing the being he curses the most (besides himself). Then, to really top everything off, God announces his retirement. Like, holy shit, thatās a lot to deal with.Ā
So, what does Lucifer do? Well, in Peak Lucifer Fashion⢠totally not avoiding the issues at hand ā as there are no issues, obviously ā he decides that heās going to take his fatherās place and become G-O-D (or Lod, if youāre feeling fresh. Please donāt call him Lod). He certainly canāt let Michael take their fatherās place, thatās for damn sure. But, and this is important, is ruling the universe what Lucifer truly desires?
Lucifer has grown so much since his and Chloeās first meeting, thereās no denying that. Of course, heās not without slip-ups, just as anyone else isnāt, but heās trying and thatās what matters. Before, everything he did was ultimately flipping the bird to his dad (but also to himself, but thatās some other shit), yet he willingly, selflessly returned to the place he vowed to never step foot in ā just to protect Chloe, to protect humanity. He had no idea when he would be able to return, if he would even be able to. Would he ever get to see Chloe again? Iām sure the question haunted him for those thousands of years, as thereās no way heād believe theyād reunite in hell.
Anyway, deeper Lucifer analysis aside, I just⦠donāt see him actually wanting the responsibility the role of God brings. Ruling hell, being a king, was always a job that was put on him and he met it great reluctance, if not outright hostility. āIt was a job, Detective. Something I was forced to do.ā Lucifer doesnāt have any desire to rule demons ā he was all for the demons themselves to become the new king, just so he didnāt have to go back ā but... Lucifer will be fine and dandy to rule... well, everything? Like, if he hates being the king of hell, whatās to say heās even going to find fulfillment in being Master of the Universe? Lucifer wants to experience humanity, to help them to realize their deepest desires ā and, hopefully, understand his own in the process. I believe that heās latching onto this idea of entering Godhood because heās avoiding the issues in front of him: Chloe asked him if he loves her back, and he never gave her an answer. Heās distracting himself, doing something dramatic as heās wont to do ā just to realize that heās right where heās supposed to be. (Chloe was just getting used to being in love with Thee Devilā¢, and now heās... God? Mm, fancy that. The devil doth protest too much, methinks.) So, what does Lucifer want? Well, thatās a whole other convo, which Iām planning to get into later.
Now we have the question: Who is fit to be God?
Itās rather obvious when you think about it. Who is most often ought out, prayed to for help? For guidance?
Amenadiel is known for his strength, his unwavering loyalty, his compassion, and his love for humanity. He didnāt come by the last two easily by any means. Before, he held humanity at a distance by slowing down time and visiting earth without it knowing. It was after staying and experiencing humanity that he began to feel a change in himself. Since his journey of self-discovery, heās learned that separating himself from people is not what he wants. Heās come to love humanity, and so, let go of the walls that kept him apart. āLook, I wasted so much time keeping them at bay, looking down on them for millennia when they have so much to offer. Iām only now just realizing how lucky that we are that we actually get a chance to connect with them. So I say put up your sign: āOpen for business. Humanity, come on in.āā
The nuns felt Godās love stronger than ever reflected back at them in the presence of Amenadiel. This had never happened to him before and it couldnāt have happened because he wasnāt ready. After losing his wings, becoming human himself, experiencing loss, heās closer to humanity than heās ever been. Heās even a father now, and he finds fulfillment in just being there for Charlie; he doesnāt need anything else. Whereas Lucifer says heās ~practicing his dad jokes, but has never been too terribly fond of offspring ā with the Detectiveās being the exception ā and has shown no inclination for fatherhood, except, yāknow, now that Godhood is dangling in front of his face like the shiny distraction it is. There are the few instances where heās seen drinking out of the #1 Dad mug, which I think was foreshadowing for Godās arrival and this subsequent idea of Luciferās to be God, more than anything. Thereās more to being a father than the puns, though. Between these two, I think itās pretty self-evident who is more fit to carry the responsibility of the universe.
I think, perhaps, Amenadiel will take the universal throne, and Lucifer will continue as he has by guiding souls to their deepest desires. It will be another partnership, the brothers working together instead of against one another ā just as they did to light the flaming sword. Someone for strength, someone for honesty. (Who knows, maybe Michael will be in charge of hell ā it would either have to be something heās bound to, or of his own free will. I mean, ~what do you truly fear~ definitely vibes more with the āyou fuel your own hell experience with your guiltā thing.)
And now, some visuals and dialogue that make my brain go brrr.Ā
āOh well, thanks for nothing.ā
āListen, I really wish I could help you find Chloe, but I have faith in you, brother.ā
āAnd what do you need?ā
āI think I just need someone to hold my hand and tell me everythingās going to be okay.ā
āI promise you, Linda. Everything is going to be okay.ā
āYou couldnāt wait to tell everyone up there how all of Godās children create their own fate, how we decide where we belong.ā
āI donāt think itās Godās job to stop the bad. I actually think heās there to give us the strength to get through it.ā
God, thy name is Amenadiel.
tl;dr
I believe s5b will not end with Lucifer as G-O-D, but with Amenadiel. If I haven't convinced you to come over to the Amenadiel as God side, what if I told you that the combined name is Godadiel. God -> Dad -> Amenadiel.
The dots? Connected. The code? Cracked. My sanity? Gone.