#lmaooo.

One of the things that allures me to Harvey and Jason's (potential) relationship is the fact that Willis Todd... was not very nice. I'm sorry, but I really don't think he was a great dad. At least in the New 52 - but that's just how I read it personally.

I reblogged a really, really good Tumblr post analysing Jason's relationship with his not-so-great dad, so go and read that if you haven't. The evidence is there that Willis was just... not very nice.

Harvey's dad was also very shit (do you see where I'm going).

And, by the way, yes, it's a very messy situation in that Harvey killed Willis. I'm not justifying that. Willis was still some poor chap that was trying to make ends meet and Jason has the right to be angry; he still loved his dad I think, or wanted to, much like Harvey wanted to love his. They both wanted to be loved by their problematic fathers (again... do you see where I'm going).

I've seen people (one person) say that because Willis took the job of being one of Harvey's thugs out of desperation, that means that Willis WAS a good dad and he was willing to do anything for Jason and Catherine, and therefore he SHOULDN'T BE CRITICIZED AT ALL.

That's... fine? If you think that, you go, girl. I just don't, I'm sorry...

I do empathize with Willis in this regard, but it's no excuse to neglect your son and treat your wife like shit. To me. I'm sorry that I don't like the guy that beat his wife over not having cigarettes in front of a child...

BTW if you don't like this view, that's fine. There are many, many faucets you can go down upon looking at comic characters. That's the beauty of it.

"But you have Harvey bias." Yes, I do love and defend the middle-aged, suicidal acid attack victim, hm, yes, but I cannot fight fate nor do I want to in this regard, lmao.

But, do you see it. Do you see the angst and drama potential between these two MFs.

Can you tell I want them to bond over their parallel trauma, even though they are both emotionally fucked. I'm just so evil like that.

Two men who have both been let down by Bruce, by Batman, by Gotham, who both have been 'reborn' in some fashion, and who both used to stand for something in Gotham, to instil hope back into it, despite how it destroyed them, have so much in common that they could be a force, but are halted by the fact that they are forever connected because of something awful that Harvey did years ago.

It's just a dynamic that I find very interesting, IDK.

And yes, yes, there is some self-indulgent stuff with it, like the fact that I just love making Harvey be a big fucking embarrassing dumbass father figure who doesn't really know what he's doing because Jason is a ball of trauma himself.

Plus, I think Jason could be the child Harvey never had, or whatever. Harvey couldn't have kids. He tried with Gilda before and it didn't work (Eye of the Beholder is the Harvey origin I always mostly go by, yes). So I think, with Jason, Harvey could have that sort of relationship even if Jason, to his right, doesn't want to indulge in it.

Jason himself is closed off. He doesn't indulge in his feelings. He's just like: "Ok, Dent, whatever, can we get pretzels now before I go home."

Jason can be argued to be Bruce's biggest failure, but he could be Harvey's greatest success... maybe.

Yes. I understand it's kind of a twisted situation. But I think that's right at home in DC.

Listen to It Has To Be This Way by Jimmy Gnecco if you'd like - not only is it a banger boss theme from the MGS series, but it's an EXTREME Harveycore song in terms of lyrics, but it ALSO suits Harvey and Jason's dynamic, at least my vision of it.

Anyway.