#klantis

yo I need y’all’s opinion on the Sheith vs Klantis (or just Klance) discourse way back then??? I personally think Shiro and Keith’s relationship is platonic but I would actually like to hear other people’s view points of Sheith whether they shipped Klance or Sheith or none.

I’m relatively new to this fandom (I started consuming vld media in late 2022), and god even I know the fandom way back then was crazy.. people definitely took it too far.

Also Sheith isn’t incest??? Maybe it’s weird for some people (including me) but c’mon they aren’t even related 😭😭😭

WTF…. People thought Plance was pedophilia?1!1?!1?11! Pidge was like 15 and Lance 17 at the start of the show and the law in the us says an 18 yr old and a 16 yr old can date, just no hopping on the vegetables….

Yooo klantis were crazyyyyy…. Now I understand why klance gives people PTSD

Anyways… just tell me about how you interpret shiro and Keith’s relationship and why

It's creepy and disrespectful to them and any existing romantic relationships they have with other people. Shipping real people can potentially ruin a relationship! ANY type of relationship! (Friendships, and lovers.)

It's okay to theorize that maybe they might be dating (or have dated), but it's another thing when you comment on posts of two people saying things like, "When are they/you gonna date??" or "You guys clearly love each other." Especially to the point of making them know about it, like tagging the them in fan art which is not cute at all.

When were you a part of their relationship? How do you know their thoughts and feelings?

Harassment in Shipping

If you have ever harassed anyone over a ship that isn't the same as yours, I think you're disgusting and undeserving of a platform that allows you to voice any harmful opinions or behaviour towards others.

Let me let you in on a little secret, sweetheart:

Fiction isn't real and therefore, doesn't need discourse from toxic people like that. People are allowed to ship what they want to ship even if it's not canon or if it's not the same as yours. Get off your gross ass high horse and get a different fucking hobby that doesn't involve attacking people on the internet for silly things.

It would not make any sense to the story (sorry Klancers😓)

What happened after season 8 was one of the most chaotic thing that ever happened to the fandom. But if this happened the fandom would be in total war!

Sheithers, Allurancers and punks would not be able to hold back their anger anymore.

They Will attack and lash out against thoose who support the what if s8.

The Klantis/antis would act like high and mighty and litteraly mock and harras every other shipper.

Other shippers would have enough and attack with words just to break Klantis fans down.

All fans of Voltron would be pissed and dissapointed in the writers and get the worst backlash from us fans.

The writers would End up get angry messages, threats and all kinds of mail from really angry fans.

Klancers would see their ship forced and not well devovlped because of the haste the writers did.

Allura and shiro fans would lose it.

The fandom would sadly Will not be able to see the difference between a Klance and a Klantis.

It would be horrible to be on tumblr.

There would be No respect against Klance tag.

Klancers would get harrased and get horrible messages like Klantis because they ship who they ship.

Any arguments would End up in full scale battle of words.

No one is safe.

The writers and the creators of VLD would be called homophobics and rascist

Keith, who was 18-20 the entire goddamn time: What.

Klantis: Oh my goodness I sure do love Klance! It’s so innocent and spicy and I love my uwu canon king!

Receipt for sheratwt/naturaIux (that’s with a capital i) who decided to make a play off some tweet about the California wildfires to get what they thought would be some sick burns in at Sheith and BakuDeku fans.

When others called them out they began defiantly saying it was okay because it was a joke and those shippers were bad and couldn’t take a simple harmless internet joke. Tastelessness is “in” for certain.

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You gotta love how antis think that saying the most bigoted homophobic shit like “God will make you burn for your sins” isn’t homophobic or bigoted when THEY say it.

Slurs & using religion to demean & harass others is the most progressive way to prove your point! /s

Sooner or later, once their lesbian God Gingerhaze fails to live up to their expectations, they’ll be throwing the exact same hate speech at her too......

Due to the misinformations and lies some Antis seem to be spreading around.

I wrote this fact-check article about sheith.

Is Sheith [ShiroxKeith] a Problematic Ship ?

[ Tw mention : Pedophilia, incest, child abuse ]

Many people [antis] went ahead and painted the ship between Shiro former leader of voltron currently captain of the Atlas and Keith the former red paladin and current black paladins and leader of voltron

A problematic  [pedophilic/incestuous] ship.

And that leads us to the question, is it really a pedophilic/incestuous  ship ?

• " Sheith is a pedophilic ship "

“ Pedophilia, or paedophilia, is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children or generally children under the age of 13.”

Considering the fact Keith's age was [18] on season 1, [19] on season 5 and currently [21] on season 6/7 while Shiro is [25] that leaves them with only a 4 years age gap.

So No, it's not and was never a pedophilic ship by any interpretation of the word as it's a ship between two legal consenting adults.

• “ Sheith normalize pedophilia cause Shiro met Keith when he was 12! while he was an adult! ”

This is a very common headcanon going around and it's both timeline inaccurate and wrong.

Shiro and Keith originally had a 6 years age gap.

And JDS described Shiro then as a young adult in his late teens/early twenties pre-kerberos mission.

Shiro met Keith when Keith was around [15/16] not [12].

Keith was as old as pidge when he enrolled into the Galaxy Garrison, a military related space academy that can be considered a military high school and it uses military cadet education it's most likely does not recruit elementary or middle school children. ( or generally children below the age of 14 ) .

While Shiro was around the age [21/22]

Their relationship pre-kreb was a purely platonic relationship and Shiro was in a full committed relationship on his way to marriage with his s/o then Adam.

• “ Sheith is harmful and homophobic cause it paints Shiro a canonically gay man as a predator

• "sheith is grooming ”

Again, Shiro was in a fully committed relationship on his way to marriage  with his significant other Adam pre-kerberos mission so he is not by any means a predator.

“Child grooming is befriending and establishing an emotional connection with a child, and sometimes the family, to lower the child's inhibitions with the objective of sexual abuse.”

Shiro's relationship with Keith pre-kreb was a purely platonic relationship with no harmful intents as Shiro simply saw a great potential in a very talented disciplinary case “Keith” who simply needed a bit of guidance.

It is by no means “grooming”.

• “ sheith is incest! They are literally brothers ”

“ Incest /ˈɪnsɛst/ is sexual activity between family members or close relatives. This typically includes sexual activity between people in a consanguineous relationship (blood relations), and sometimes those related by affinity, stepfamily, those related by adoption or marriage ”

It was confirmed by the creators that Keith and Shiro are not related by blood or even adoption or in anyway.

Since they are not related in anyway way.

No, it's not an incestuous ship.

• “ Shiro adopted Keith !”

• “ Shiro raised Keith ! ”

Is yet another very common headcanon going around. That was not confirmed, mentioned or even hinted on. And was dismissed by the staff.

Aside from the fact you can not adopt a brother, and need to be at least 25 and and healthy since life terminal illness could disqualify you from being an adoptive parent.

Pre-kreb Shiro an unmarried young adult [21/22] with a chronicle muscle disorder and only 3 active years left in his life that he was going to spend them on the Kerberos mission could not have adopt a 15 years old.

Befriending someone younger than you is not equivalent to raising them, Shiro did not raise Keith and they only known each other for only 2 years or so before Shiro took off for the Kerberos mission.

Approximately 2 years are by no means enough time to “raise” someone.

• “ Keith called Shiro his brother several times! It's incest”

“Shiro you are like a brother to me”

“you are my brother”

Calling someone that is not related to you “your brother” does not make them automatically your sibling.

Many people refer to their best friends as their brother/sister, and that does not mean any future relationship is labeled incest since they are not related and feelings and emotions indeed evolve and are subjected to change.

That aside, the creators never referred to them as brothers but rather as “best friends” and on the other hand that staff said “the brother line is not literal, and not as important as the way it is being said.”

Josh Hamilton went on to state the “you’re my brother” line was equivalent to Keith saying “you’re everything to me”.

• “Sheith is problematic and unhealthy cause it's power imbalance”

“A power imbalance is the attempt by the perpetrator(s) to use observed or perceived personal or situational characteristics to exert control over the targeted youth's behavior or limit the victim's ability to respond or stop their aggression.”

Shiro has not ever harmed or pressured Keith, but rather always vouched for him and his abilities, even believed in him and wanted him to be his successor to lead voltron as the black paladin.

Shiro is currently the capital of the Atlas while Keith is the leader of voltron and the black paladin, and he displayed obvious confident leading actions and qualities  during season 7. So we can safely say they are on an equal footing.