#ilovevimtotodeath

so like today...karlie posted 13 days ago a video of her dancing in the woods looking similar to the folklore aesthetic

and also posted another pic in the woods

it’s LOUD

we’re not here to really dive into kaylor but we’re also not blind

swiftgron has been loud in its own ways but karlie is referencing kaylor on sm or w/e every other day

"invented slights.”

alright, anon! if my issues with tinhatters are based on things i “invented,” let’s take a look at one blog: the infamous formerly known as kaylornation!

here’s the post erin made because she wanted to punish karlie. here’s a post confirming she did it because she was mad karlie was “stunting.”  and another one.

here’s her supporting theories that calvin could out taylor and finding entertainment in it. and again.

here’s anons taking the orlando tragedy and saying “WHAT IF TAYLOR USED THIS TI COME OUT” and erin agreeing with it.

saying taylor wasn’t really slut-shamed her whole career because everything was PR. here’s the thing! even if taylor is a lesbian, and all her relationships are fake? the public still slut shamed her because they believed she was dating men.

“she wants to be intentionally outed so she can play the victim!”

i’ll gladly pull out links that prove other tinhatters are terrible, but until then, here’s a list of things they ALL participate in:

biphobia: not one prominent kaylor tinhatter i’ve seen has said they think taylor and/or karlie is bisexual. despite the fact there’s plenty of evidence both have been with men, both are labelled as 100% gay. not even a discussion of compulsory heterosexuality! nope, they’re both gay women and their entire lives have been a stunt!

gold star lesbianism: check any kaylor tinhatter blog from 2015, and every single one of them praised karlie for never having been with men. whereas taylor was apparently AWFUL because one of her relationships with men was real (john mayer).

the constant hatred they all spew towards the girls for not being “out.” they can claim it’s because the girls are “stunting” all they want, but the reasons the girls would stunt? is because they don’t want to be out. if karlie and taylor are gay are in love, they are closeted for whatever reason. wanting to remain that way doesn’t make them evil.

and just for a little self promo, here’s other posts i’ve made about this subject. 

and all that being said? i don’t think kaylor shippers deserved to be endlessly harassed in 2015. i agree it was disgusting, especially as a lot of it came from a place of homophobia.

but that doesn’t make the stuff they pull okay, nor does it mean people can’t call them out. a lesbian saying “your behaviour is gross and harmful” isn’t the same as people sending homophobic comments about taylor swift to tinhatters.

and, honestly anon? even if the kaylor tinhatters are proven correct, if taylor and karlie come out tomorrow and say “we’re both lesbians and we’ve never dated men and we’re married,” i would still have issues with them. my problem with them has never been whether or not they’re right or wrong - hell, most of my issues with them stem from the possibility they could be right.

because the people? have spent YEARS trying to prove that a woman they believe is closeted is gay. they have disregarded the fact that if she isn’t straight, she doesn’t want to be out. they have made masterposts trying to prove she’s gay and her relationships with men are fake. they have attacked people who disagreed with them, and called LGBT people homophobic for not believing their theories. they have gleefully spent years hating on two women for not being out.

i don’t care if they’re right. honestly, as a lesbian taylor fan, i would LOVE it if taylor was like me. but as as a lesbian taylor fan, i am absolutely going to have issues with people who try and out two women. 

eh karlie is loud and koincidences have us going 👀

if dianna did half the stuff karlie did we’d be losing our minds

let em ship who they ship there’s room for all of us!

this album should be pretty damn telling!

befas;lkdjfadkls;fj god i KNOW there are so many dianna-/red-era songs i forgot and i’m SORRY… like. i forgot STATE OF GRACE??? you know what let’s do gayest lines of songs in red, here we go:

state of grace — “i’ve loved in shades of wrong / we learn to live with the pain / mosaic broken hearts / but this love is brave and wild. / and i never saw you coming / and i’ll never be the same” are you FUCKING kidding me taylor

red — “loving him is like trying to change your mind once you’re already flying through the free fall / like the colors in autumn, so bright just before they lose it all” … “regretting him was like wishing you never found out that love could be that strong” LITERALLY there’s no reason for a straight couple to be this fuckin DRAMATIC like… oh no this love is too strong, it’s too late for me to change my mind but i CAN’T be in love with this person, i’ll lose it ALL!!! like! no bitch, unexpectedly falling in love with generic white boy no.3 isn’t that tragic

treacherous — i already mentioned “put your lips close to mine / as long as they don’t touch” last night but i can’t believe i FORGOT about “can’t decide if it’s a choice” ……………… taylor please… i’m want to believe that you were trying to be subtle but you’re just so BAD at it

i knew you were trouble — i mean OBVIOUSLY the infamous “she” which i already mentioned, but like the whole thing just screams “she walked in and— oh no. oh shit she’s hot… fuck this is gonna fuck shit up for me FUCK she can’t be hot. oh this shit is gonna get my gay ass in TROUBLE”

all too well — someone else mentioned “plaid shirt days and nights when you made me your own” which is i mean. obviously gay. but honestly the whole “well, maybe we got lost in translation, maybe i asked for too much / but maybe this thing was a masterpiece ‘til you tore it all up / running scared, i was there, i remember it all too well” thing just SCREAMS either one of us is ready to come out and one us of isn’t, or one of us is queer and wants to turn this friendship into a romantic relationship but the other one is too scared or too deep in the closet (or just… straight tbh) and you can’t unring that gay bell so everything got fucked up

22 — okay i already mentioned “everything will be alright if you keep me next to you / you don’t know about me but i’ll bet you want to” which is obviously gay, but this whole song is all about her hanging out with her girl squad or whatever but then she sings “it feels like one of those nights we ditch the whole scene / it feels like one of those nights we won’t be sleeping / it feels like one of those nights you look like bad news / i gotta have you” and YET there is not one (1) man in sight so it’s obviously like… you’re hanging out with all your best friends and everyone’s drunk and happy but then you’re actually crushing on one of them and you uhhh ditch everyone else to go hook up on the roof or something, which is bad news cause it might fuck with the friend group dynamic but you just GOTTA do it. because ur gay and a horny idiot. also “we’re happy, free, confused, and lonely in the best way / it’s miserable and magical” is def about bein gay and still trying to figure out how that fits into the rest of your life and where you fit into the rest of the world

EDIT: I FORGOT the original lyrics to 22 are even GAYER: “sometimes it hits me / we’re moving quickly / toward something hazy / a future i can’t see / let’s break the old rules / while we’re still 22 / you look like bad news / i’ve gotta have you” let’s break the old rules????? HONEY

stay stay stay — “it’s been occurring to me i’d like to hang out with you for my whole life” is literally how lesbians decide to uhaul and get married

holy ground — “we blocked the noise with the sound of ‘i need you’ / and for the first time i had something to lose / and i guess we fell apart in the usual way / and the story’s got dust on every page / but sometimes i wonder how you think about it now…” literally every time she sings about having something to lose and love falling apart, it’s about the danger of being closeted and/or coming out. like explicitly saying you have “something to lose” means that 1) there is something more than the relationship itself at stake, i.e. your ~reputation~, and this is the first time a relationship has been serious enough that it might threaten that or this is the first time your reputation/career has been on a trajectory where it seems like that would matter, but also 2) for the first time, this relationship is the ‘something to lose’ and you’re considering putting everything on the line and maybe coming out because you don’t want to drive the other person away by forcing them to stay hidden… and then “i wonder how you think about it now” is literally like. in retrospect did we make the right decision to not come out, which sure did protect our careers and reputations but at the cost of driving a wedge between us

sad beautiful tragic — beautiful magic love and sad beautiful tragic love affairs belong to The Gays send tweet

the lucky one — oh my GOD do not talk to me about this song. this is glinda singing “thank goodness” in wicked. is your supposed happy ending and your name up in marquee lights worth it if you had to give up so much of yourself on the way there?? “and your lover in the foyer doesn’t even know you / and your secrets end up splashed on the news front page” is all the glamor and the fame worth the bearding and the secrets and being surrounded by people who don’t really know you? and THEN “they say you bought a bunch of land somewhere / chose the rose garden over madison square” ……… this is literally every farm lesbian aesthetic tumblr post that’s like “i just want to move out to the country with the girl i love and my dog and two cats and plant flowers”

begin again — she uses male pronouns to describe the ex who was a fucking asshole and never laughed at her jokes and belittled her taste in music and hated when she wore heels (aka straight man warning signs 101) and then she begins again and meets this new person but only refers to them as “you” which is… a Choice she makes a lot in her writing………

 let me dissect this message.

“Exactly how many really famous and influential out lesbians are their in the world? closeted girls across the world are desperate for any recognition, leave them be.”this is irrelevant to my post you are responding to. in my post, i ask if anyone is bothered by kaylor ‘fans’ who have no problem stating they are NOT a fan of taylor’s music. in my post, i say i understand speculating about your favorite musician’s sexuality in order to be able to identify with her, but there are kaylor bloggers who are NOT a fan of taylor’s music. you did not even read my post. you read what you wanted to read.

“stop making excuses for your bigotry against kaylors.”this is hilarious because if you took the chance to look at my blog or even my goddamn URL, you’d see that i’m a kaylor. am i “bigoted” against myself, or do you just spend all of your time searching for people to send anon hate to because you’re that bored with your life? seriously, i have never seen you say a single positive thing. whenever i see your URL, it’s a hateful, nasty message sent to someone else.

also, there are major kaylor bloggers who admit they are not fans of taylor’s music. want receipts?