A new podcast series on tensions within the so-called LGBTQ movement delivers major revelations
By: Ben Appel
Published: Mar 24, 2026
A new podcast series on tensions within the so-called LGBTQ movement delivers major revelations.
On Friday, Longviewâs Reflector podcast debuted Strange Bedfellows: When LGB met T, a three-part series about how the gay rights movement became the LGBTQ movement. Ben Kawaller, a cohost of the series and its lead reporter, interviewed me for it a number of months ago. The portion of our conversation included in the final product focuses largely on my time working as a News & Rapid Response intern at GLAAD in 2017âparticularly how uneasy I felt about the organizationâs quickness to condemn public figures who voiced reasonable objections to trans rights initiatives or who perhaps misspoke about trans-related issues.
According to the series, GLAAD adopted this punishing ethos not long after its current president and CEO, Sarah Kate Ellis, joined the organization in 2014. Prior to that, former GLAAD president Herndon Graddick told Kawaller on the podcast, the strategy when a public figure erred was to âtry to figure out a way to healânot throw people off your side permanently, but kind of figure out a path forward that you wind up being friends.â
Graddickâs words felt vindicating, as did the message I received from a former GLAAD employee the day the podcast premiered. This individual, whom Iâd never met, wrote to thank me for âverbalizing everything I felt then about the switch under SKE [Sarah Kate Ellis].â They continued: âAll of a sudden, I was being asked to make the case for someone being a bigot rather than documenting their actual bigotry.â
What felt even more vindicating, though, was hearing what Graddick told Kawaller in Episode 3: âI think we need to correct whatâs wrong first. And so thatâs a big thing. I mean, particularly the medicalization of children.â
Kawaller narrated: âHe thinks that the time has come to admit it was wrong to medicalize so many of these kids.â
Graddick continued: âTeenagers and kids should not be given the power to make these life-altering decisions that medicalization causes.â
Kawallerâs cohost, Andy Millsâwho produced the 2023 podcast series The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowlingâwas as shocked as I was to hear Graddick say this out loud. âWait, so youâre saying that the former head of GLAAD told you it was a mistake to unquestionably support the medical treatment of these minors?â he asked Kawaller.
âYeah,â Kawaller said, before rolling another Graddick clip.
âI just think that we should completely stop doing anything that might harm children, even if it [means we admit] that we got something really wrong, and my understanding is that we have,â Graddick said. âI think that thereâs been a lot of fear about discussing things openly for fear of being called transphobic, and I think that weâre at a place that we can really have those conversations without that fear. And certainly transphobia has nothing to do with my motivation to say this, but more like, you know, letâs just get our side of the street totally clean.â
This is a big deal. Graddick joined GLAAD in 2010 and served as its president from 2012 to 2013. It was under his leadership that the organization began to shift its focus to transgender issues, even going so far as to change its name from the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation to simply GLAAD. In May 2013, after Graddick announced his resignation, Chad Griffin, then president of the Human Rights Campaign, issued a statement thanking Graddick for leading GLAAD in its ânew and groundbreaking workâ to âlift up transgender voices across the country.â That same day, The Advocate reported:
Graddick was also instrumental in GLAADâs awareness and media competency campaigns around issues impacting the transgender community. GLAAD worked closely with the Colorado family of a transgender 6-year-old whose school refused to allow her to use the girlâs bathroom, filing a complaint with the state civil rights commission and elevating awareness about the situation.
Graddick also led GLAADâs efforts to educate the mainstream media on how to report on transgender people, including, most recently, the murder of Cemia Acoff, reports of whose death was bungled by local media in Cleveland. In November, the organization published a comprehensive report about transphobic violence and irresponsible media reporting called Doubly Victimized, that offered guidelines for mainstream media reports on transgender issues.
On YouTube, thereâs a clip from 2013 of Graddick introducing trans-identified boys Jazz Jennings and Coy Mathisâages twelve and six at the timeâon stage at GLAADâs annual awards gala. âEarlier tonight I was asked by Ketel One who was my inspiration, and I wrote the both of you,â he told them.
No word on where Coy Mathis is today, but we know how things turned out for Jazz. He had his puberty blocked at 11 and started cross-sex hormones at 14. At 17, he underwent bottom surgery, which was unsuccessful and required at least two surgical revisions. He now battles severe mental health issues and obesity.
One of Jazzâs surgeons was Dr. Jess Ting, who was the surgical director of Mount Sinaiâs Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery. Last month, news outlets reported that the Epstein files revealed that Ting performed personal favors for Jeffrey Epstein, including giving 35 stitches to one of his girlfriends, a Russian undergraduate, while she was âlaid outâ on Epsteinâs dining room table. Ting visited Epsteinâs island with his own girlfriend and her children. According to Tingâs Mount Sinai profile, âDr. Ting performs research in transgender health and his clinical practice is limited to the surgical care of the transgender/gender non-conforming community, as well as victims of female genital mutilation.â
Jazzâs other surgeon was Marci Bowers, a transwoman and the former president of WPATH. Hereâs an excerpt from my book, Cis White Gay, about Bowers:
During a 2022 Duke University symposium, Bowers stated that every male whose puberty is blocked at Tanner Stage 2âthe stage when the body begins to sexually matureâhas never and possibly will never experience a proper orgasm. (This, of course, is on top of the fact that medical transition sterilizes them.) Bowers revealed the experimental nature of gender-affirming care by wondering aloud to the audience what the solution to this could be. Options range from removing the blockers and letting âa little bit of puberty come backâ to encouraging the child to masturbate so that they know what an orgasm feels like.
As Bowers made this latter suggestion, he acknowledged that some males might experience dysphoria around their penis, but went on to say, âAll a penis is is just a large clitorisâitâs all the same materialâso, you know, use it for the pleasurable purposes that partially it was intended!â
To this, any thinking person might respond, âIf a child getting over his dysphoria about his body is such a reasonable possibility, then why are we cutting off his penis?â
Unfortunately, none of the other panelists made a peep.
Bowers said that his work with female genital mutilation survivors, whose physical trauma has affected their ability to be intimate with their partners, is what âraised the red flagâ for him about this particular issue in gender care.
To this I would say, âWhen the âcareâ you provide to adolescents can be compared to female genital mutilationâthat is, the excision of womenâs clitorises, performed in the name of Islam, to deny them sexual pleasureâyou might want to rethink what youâre doing.â And leaving aside for a moment the total impropriety of an adult encouraging a pre-pubertal child to masturbate, I find it tragic that clinicians are taking away his possibility of having his own organic sexual awakening. Rather, he is a lab rat. His sexual life begins in a sterile clinic.
If youâve been following me for a while, you know Iâve been speaking out against the medicalization of gender-nonconforming youth since at least April 2022, when Newsweek published my op-ed, âThe New Homophobia.â Since then, Iâve beenâand thereâs really no other way to say thisâafraid of GLAAD, which wields considerable financial, political, and cultural power. A 2024 New York Times investigation revealed the organizationâs âlavish spending,â especially when it comes to Ellis, whose contract allows her to earn up to $1.3 million per year, including bonuses. The Times article begins with Ellis being chauffeured in a Mercedes to âthe Tivoli Lodge, a seven-bedroom chalet that cost nearly half a million dollars to rent for the week,â where she and her colleagues stayed during the World Economic Forum in Davos. (In 2017, when I interned at GLAAD, the organization did not pay its interns.) Graddickâs remarks on the podcast, as well as the messages of support Iâve now received from two former GLAAD employees, come as a huge relief.
In the podcast,1Â Ellis stands behind the medicalization of minors: âThis is finished business. Itâs politicians and junk science, whoâs creating some kind of debate or argument about this.â
She went on: âIt is not a debate. We are actually looking at the single source of truth and they are creating a conversation that doesnât exist. Itâs deeply rooted transphobia. Thatâs what it is, at the end of the day.â
I reached out to GLAAD for comment on Graddickâs remarks. If I hear back, I will update this post.









