In Bojack Horseman the idea of achieving your parents dreams is integrated throughout the show. Beatrice was told never to love anyone as much as her mother loved her brother but still strives for the perfect family, and in turn she put it on Bojack to be “worth it”. Princess Carolyn’s mother dreamed of a better life for her daughter to the point she was going to force her to go through with a teen pregnancy to entrap a rich family. Sarah Lynn even talks repeatedly about how SHE wanted to be an architect but her mother wanted her to be famous and was willing to put everything at risk for that. The only ones who we see that don’t follow their parents plans for them, and thus ruining their relationship with their families, are Diane and Todd. Diane’s family wanted her to stay home and be more like them. Because she was a girl she was treated as less than and expected to cater to her brothers’ egos. Todd had an addiction to a game that clearly affected his life but instead of trying to assist him with actually working through it his parents kicked him out and cut him off. Leaving him alone at 18 to find his own support system. Or maybe it is 4 AM, and this is a cartoon and I am thinking about this way too hard.
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It’s okay to defend Stolas but it’s not okay to excuse his actions or villainize Blitz and Octavia
By way of Explanation, Excuse, and the Paradox of "Good Damage"
I think a lot of people struggle to find the difference between an explanation and an excuse. Especially when it comes to the internet and our knack online of taking all statements as an extreme. It also folds into the growing immaturity in society to not be able to grasp nuance in communication, or even recognize that talking to each other is still all about interpretation.
I think this can go back to the misunderstanding between myself and the other Anon where they felt the need to respond and assure everyone that they didn't find Medrano a malevolent/malicious person. And that's because I used the word malicious. But I use words in a different way than most people. So I explained how words function for me and what I mean when I use a word like "malicious", but I also still apologize. Because I have the social awareness to see that, on a platform that is seen by dozens of users, my use of words is 1) not universally understood and 2) can give an unfair impression of the Anon to others who see my response.
It's not fair for a misunderstanding caused by me to characterize someone else and their intentions to others. So, of course, I will always apologize for that. Because there is a lot of power we hold over our anons. Everyone who comes to my page will understand the Anon through my myopic perspective based on my response. And that is also filmed over with their own wheelhouse of how they view the world.
Malicious doesn't typically mean "intentional actions that result in obvious negative outcomes". It usually means with cruelty/malice and an intention to do harm.
When I say Malicious, I don't mean that someone does something with the intention of harm. Just that they had intentions, and the obvious outcome would be harmful. I genuinely think most actions I call "malicious" are made from ignorance and a lack of thought.
Ignorant is the same as Malicious to me.
And this is where I think an explanation and an excuse diverge in reality: an excuse seeks to rewrite the events by defining the entire action through one's own intentions while an explanation gives information to share in one's own perspective while understanding that their response did or had potential to cause harm and thus still apologizing for it.
And not an apology like "I'm sorry you feel that way" but taking accountability for the repercussions that may have occurred. Like in the case of myself, I could have accidentally made my other Anon out to be a fanatical hater who thinks of Medrano as the worst person when they really don't. And because I'm the one amplifying that potential characterization, it is my responsibility to correct it and take ownership of the negative impact my actions could have caused.
For Stolas in particular, the reason why the show never gets the feeling of an "explanation" is because it seems that Stolas never faces the repercussions of his own actions.
He is the one who starts the deal with the book, but it is Blitz who is put on trial.
Stolas is the one who instigates the sexual encounters throughout the show, but it is Blitz who is being unfair in New Moon and needs to apologize
It is Stolas who doesn't divorce his abusive wife and subjects his daughter to that home life/lying to his daughter about her own upbringing, but it's Octavia's fault for being hurt by it which is also framed as unreasonable.
There is no point where Stolas actually takes ownership of what he's done, and accept it. In New Moon, he "apologizes" for using Blitz, but when Blitz lashes put in confusion and anger (because he is taken off guard and Stolas is jerking him around by defining their relationship without his involvement, which is hugely disrespectful) Stolas doesn't accept that responsibility. He runs away, literally. He immediately goes into self-pity, which is why the "apology" in Full Moon is an excuse.
The whole problem in their relationship is that Stolas defines every aspect of it alone. He makes the deal up without input from Blitz (who is socially and materially powerless) and in the same way he made the deal, he ends it; entirely without any input from Blitz. The way Stolas doesn't just connect with Blitz about how he has been feeling. Instead he talks down to Blitz by saying the deal is "wrong", as if Blitz is a literal child and wouldn't understand what Stolas has been doing to him.
Stolas' whole apology actively takes agency away from Blitz by the simple way he does it: without consultation.
And this is the exact same problem in his relationship with Octavia. He assumes he knows best for everyone, and then says he isn't valuable enough to take care of himself in the service of others, but that's actually a form of narcissistic grandiosity. He places himself on a pedestal through his martyrdom.
I get if that seems paradoxical but it is something you find most often in people who suffer religious trauma. Jesus Christ is the ultimate martyr who suffered and died for our sins. And in regards to Stolas' behavior, it is a parody of that construct, and it's something a lot of mentally ill people do in real life.
And this is what Bojack Horseman, the show, calls "Good Damage". That someone's suffering and pain happens for a reason, even if it isn't a cosmic reason like being some religious Messiah. Bojack Horseman is a very non-denominational show with no clear religious affiliation, so much of this kind of philosophy is filtered through a godless lens and into existentialism. By which I mean there is not an inherent reason for things to happen. There is no God to will for people to die and there is no afterlife that we are striving to secure. So like Existentialists Søren Kierkegaard and Albert Camus explain, we have to make that meaning for ourselves.
Diane is the best example to show how this sort of martyrdom is a form of narcissistic grandiosity and how trying to make one's suffering mean something is actively harmful to one's own mental health and our relationships.
"Because! If I don't, that means that all the damage I got isn't Good Damage, it's just damage. I have gotten anything out of it and all those years I was miserable was for nothing ... I thought that everything, all the abuse and neglect, it somehow made me special."
This is textbook grandiosity. This is the core of most personality disorders, in fact. Specifically in the sphere of cluster B personality types such as Borderline Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
This is a coping mechanism. It's shifting the narrative of what happened so that it wasn't just something unfair and painful that you went through for no reason. It's a way of preserving a sense of self as a child, in the face of abuse and neglect, to just be able to survive and just keep living. It's making some purpose because if you don't have one, why keep living.
It's something I lived through. I'm currently in remission for my diagnosis, but that isn't the same as cured. Being in remission just means a reduction or absence of symptoms, but that doesn't mean that the disordered thoughts are gone. Symptoms are just what others see, not what is going on inside your head. You have to consistently choose to not engage with those disordered thoughts and feelings, and you have to make that active choice to not be that person any longer.
Stolas never has to suffer the costs of his own behavior, instead his character is still very quickly on that downward trajectory. And, frankly, that's not an actual problem!
Stolas maybe hasn't hit his stride as a character, but the issue is that Blitz has. The confusion for most people exists, then, in how the world has changed for Stolas while Stolas has stayed the same. Change comes when the pain of staying the same becomes greater than the pain of changing. It's true in life as it is in storytelling. Mental health doesn't get better until we choose to change.
But Blitz changed for no reason. In fact, his pain has been and still is caused by Stolas. And seeing as Blitz, not Stolas, is the main character, perhaps fans can be more forgiving over the fact that Stolas is still seen as the villain for a good amount of people.
There sure is a lot of emphasis on himself throughout all this "giving" he's done. And all it does is prove Blitz in New Moon correct. This is a bizarre show that genuinely doesn't understand that there is no good damage, just narcissistic martyrdom. And like all narcissism, it is toxic, manipulative, and corrosive.
There is no genuine love shown by any character in this series.
While I do not consider myself disabled, I have chronic health issues that are sometimes disabling. And I'm used to having to live my life with that in the back of my mind. Not in a self-hating way, simply pragmatically. I need certain medications and technology in order to function in a way I find worth living for. While I certainly don't speak for the entire disabled community, I'm not unfamiliar with the struggle™.
TLDR: they really, really needed a sensitivity reader or disabled person's input. A for the idea, F for the execution
"You've always wanted to cure what you thought were weaknesses. Your leg."
Jayce: *breaks leg* *leg can now no longer support his weight* *builds brace to compensate for leg weakness* *proceeds to shame Viktor for wanting a permanent fix for his own leg issue*
"Your disease."
Last season, when Viktor's disease was actively killing him, Jayce got Heimerdinger voted off the Council so Viktor could keep researching what Jayce himself joyfully admitted was a potential cure. How hard did this man's head hit the bottom of the pit?
But you were never broken, Viktor.
Why is Jayce the one getting to say what is and isn't broken? Broken is literally defined as "damaged and no longer in working order". The man was in chronic pain, visibly wasting away before our eyes, and born with a body that was not functioning as it should. Viktor describes his body as "eroding". He has never said that it makes him feel bad about himself as a person. Even when he called himself a cripple, its one of a list of obstacles he’s had to overcome to get where he is now. He isn't ashamed, he's proud. And Jayce is inspired by it enough to not to give up on his work. Or his life.
Side note: Some neurodivergent and disabled people use the term broken in a non-offensive way. For some, its a reminder that they the *person* are not broken. For others, its simply a fact of life they adjust to. But that doesn't mean other people get to label them as such.
"There is beauty in imperfections."
Sure, in the same way they used to call tuberculosis "consumptive chic" because it made you pale and thin with red lips. Death isn't beautiful, its devastating.
"They made you who you are, an inseparable piece of everything I admired about you."
Except, Viktor wouldn't be any less brilliant or determined or humorous if he wasn't disabled. Instantly made me think about this scene from Bojack:
Over and over I have watched the disabled community patiently explaining, passionately advocating, or righteously, ragefully, unceasingly insisting that they are more than their disability. That their disability doesn't define them. To see past it to who they are as a person. That regardless of your personal opinion, they have the same inherent value as an able-bodied person.
I get what Arcane was going for here. I really do. It was a nice idea in theory. But what they ended up with was a well-meaning, able-bodied, privileged person assigning labels to a disabled person's own opinion of himself, tell him what he should and should not do with his body, and then tie this deeply questionable conversation about Viktor's body to Viktor as a person.
And for once true to his S1 character, THAT DID NOT SWAY VIKTOR AT ALL. The last time he saw Jayce, he got soundly rejected. The next scene of them is him continuing to "evolve" Jayce. Ekko's device gave Jayce the opportunity tell Viktor how much he wanted him and THAT made the difference.
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Oh my gooooshhh I love that your icon is the moose from Ivan tran food court detective - Good Damage is my favourite bojack episode of alll time !!!
Thank you!!! It's my favorite episode too. I found Diane's trajectory in that episode shockingly similar to my own because I'm also an author but I spent a lot of my life believing I needed to write some kind of memoir or autofiction that transformed my trauma into something WORTHWHILE, that made my having lived through it pay off somehow. Just like her. And just like her, the book I finally got published with was a middle grade novel. So that was my "Twinsies!" episode. I also feel like if I existed in the BJH universe I would probably be a moose because they're my favorite animal since I was a baby and it's my IRL nickname. If you zoom in and read Ivy Tran, Food Court Detective on Diane's computer, there's a line where she says a moose "sidles up" to Ivy, "all moose-like" so that's where my url comes from too!