#florencedrunk

as if julie andem handled seasons 2 & 4 well…

I like Sleep No More too! And even if the Zygon ones are not my favourite their WAY better than UTL/BTF

like i’m not seriously trying to be a dick here but idk how to watch the Zygon Fuck You without feeling like it’s trying way too hard (and failing) at being a Super Action Globetrotting Thriller premised entirely on ‘refugees are shifty spooky monsters who will trick you into thinking they’re people like you’ and then i’m like ‘maybe that wasn’t the intended metaphor’ and then i’m like ‘wait holdup why is the Other only represented by a half-human like what is this trying to say’ and then the Dr does their weirdly paternalistic White Savior ‘only idiots fight back against oppression’ speech and then i’m like, but they are literally monsters who kill people, and THEN i’m like why in the fuck you write a story where literal monsters are the immigrants seeking asylum and why they gotta stay Other and why unleash this #AllLivesMatter shit upon us

and then my brain just short-circuits out like

also it’s just a clusterfuck of an episode. Under the Before is wonky and imperfect but at least i can follow it and it doesn’t make me feel like a bad person for enjoying what enjoyable parts it has.

are you familiar with leverage?

Oooh, I watched it years ago when it was still airing. The whole thing, I guess. But that would be so, so nice to re-watch.

timelordsfallnomore replied to your post “Are there any tv shows you watch that just make you feel warm and...”

community!! and doctor who ofc

florencedrunk replied to your post “Are there any tv shows you watch that just make you feel warm and...”

Parks & Recreation!

I’ve watched some episodes of both before, I think. Parks&Rec even from the beginning. Is there like a point that’s well known (or just in your personal opinion) for those show to kind of click? Fan favourite episodes?

onaperduamedee replied to your post “Are there any tv shows you watch that just make you feel warm and...”

Leverage, Atelier, The Avengers (1961-69) And Doctor Who.

Weeeeeh, I’m not alone! *highfives* *clears throat* no, uhm, I meant - *grave voice* you share my pain @florencedrunk *salutes*

Oh, sure, I get that. I guess I just love the tragic nature of the whole thing. I mean, maybe it’s because I never really wanted (or expected) Missy to turn good, or as good as the Doctor, if that’s our standard. And I like to think that the Doctor did know about what Missy was about to do. So , in a way, they did stand together. Maybe not side by side, but at least as allies.

Oh, definitely. It was a fantastic storyline and I think it was done as well, or very nearly as well, as it could have been with the various limitations taken into account. 

welcome-to-my-mind-shed a réagi à votre billet “the problem with series 10, for me, is that it never ultimately...”

I really loved series 10, right up there with series 9 in my opinion. I hate it when I don't like something and I wish I would. I'm sorry you didn't like series 10 very much. All I can say is I hope series 11 is all that you wish it to be. :)

Thank you! I’m glad you loved series 10! I didn’t dislike it at all, it was just a bit sort of...same old same old. I’d have just loved something self-contained but meaty and emotionally complex, which is something I think every other series has given us! I’m pumpppeeed for series 11! It’s probably a year away and yet...I want everything now. New companion reveal/Thirteen’s costume reveal/filming photos. It’s all coming and I’m beyond excited!!

steamedbunns a réagi à votre billet “the problem with series 10, for me, is that it never ultimately...”

i find that s10 is my favourite capaldi season, probably because i had more of an open mind when watching it than I did with his earlier ones. but yeah, I don't think I'd actively go back and rewatch episodes. I wouldn't buy the dvd set like I did for most of elevens episodes. they were fun but not particularly gripping.

Yeah that’s kinda the way I see it too. It was fun, I had a good time, but nothing substantially gripping, (World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls notwithstanding!). For me, my fav Capaldi series is s9. Regardless of what you think of the stories themselves, (I think the Zygon two-parter is well-intentioned, but messy at best, insulting at worst...), series 9 did something super interesting and different with it’s structure, and took a lot more risks with it’s storytelling throughout, even Sleep No More had a good high-concept Black Mirror-esque premise, while, naturally, Heaven Sent was a huge risk worth taking, and the ‘forgettable’ The Woman Who Lived is at least emotionally driven and stylistically unique thanks to its lyrical dialogue ...  plus like. I’m a sucker for that Twelve/Clara dymanic. Plus that glorious finale. Plus that Twelve development. It’s just wonderful to me!

lullapiee a réagi à votre billet “the problem with series 10, for me, is that it never ultimately...”

I understand you here. I was a bit 'meh' with some of the episodes this season and had no wish to re-watch them- namely the Empress of Mars and Knock-Knock. I'm not sure why this is but I just didn't find them that gripping and so the element of re-watching them isn't there. However, I am warming to the season by forcing myself to re-watch from the start. I'm hoping this time around I might get a better feel for the episodes and might enjoy them more.

I’ll certainly do that too at some point! I mean you’re talking to the person who agressively hated the Moffat era until they did a rewatch post The Time of the Doctor and then, well, everything changed! I absolutely find that when removed from the in-the-run-up hype and the week-to-week...waiting...things feel so much better so fingers crossed I find something super memorable in it too! 

gallifreyland a réagi à votre billet “the problem with series 10, for me, is that it never ultimately...”

I feel exactly this way too! It was fun while I watched it and I loved the finale, but the middle episodes just feel kind of average to me in retrospect. I think it might be because this series was a bit lighter on the 'powerful emotions' stuff – all the eps you mention above have a powerful emotional element, whether it's fear or love or the sadness of saying goodbye. S10 it seems saved it all up for the finale (which was great!) but it sort of suffered around the middle imo.

Yes exactly! The emotional element was missing. I think a lot of that has to do with the side characters tbqh? Heather/Penny/Erica/Hazran are the only side-protagonists I remember, (All four of whom are Moffat written so like..no surprises there!), And from them like...Heather and Hazran were from the opener/finale and...Penny and Erica are just dropped for no explicable reason like you would think given the story is a 3-parter that they’d have both played a role in The Lie of the Land but...nope! Toby Whithouse just...drops the ball so hard from literally every angle that even the story-specific side characters just flat-out...dissapear! Maybe I’d add the LGBT+ teen Romans from The Eaters of Light to the mix, but I’d have to watch it again. Without memorable, consistent side-characters with episode arcs then where are our emotional hooks? It can’t come from Bill and Twelve every time! Where is our Nancy or Elton Pope or Joan Redfern or Jenny or Liz 10 or Rita or Merry Gejelh or Ada Gillyflower or Kate Stewart or Ashildr? I feel like we really didn’t...get one...this series...which is probably a massive reason why it’s so eh in my mind!

florencedrunk a réagi à votre billet “the problem with series 10, for me, is that it never ultimately...”

Ultimately, I think the problem is that they trusted the Monks Trilogy to be that, but because of The Lie of the Land the previous two episodes (which are rather good episodes, in my opinion) deflated like one of Oswin's soufflés.

This made me laugh for the wrong reason. - Submitted by @florencedrunk

I haven’t watched the clip yet but…..like……no