#ficcourse

recordings of real-life people experiencing real abuse/victimization should be immediately & completely removed from existence upon request

some grayer area for i.e. recording police brutality & publishing to a large audience bc records currently needed for political reasons. but generally as rule of thumb avoid when not like that, or esp when it’s less public/more private/personal

all of the media recording sexual abuse, exploitation, and rape of actors/actresses currently still circulating/in existence, including the more popular/well-known films, especially those which their victims have fought to have taken down/no longer watched but failed, needs to be removed from existence asap. this media is irredeemable regardless of any other contexts shitty capitalists try to put them in for flimsy excuses

all abuse recordings such as those videos p*rents share showing them hitting their kids or yelling at & insulting their kids bragging about abusing them being circulated on social media need to be wiped from the internet. general abusive/exploitative imagery and other media recordings of that variety, i.e. revenge porn, CSEM, needs to be wiped too. if socmed platforms won’t do it then we find a way to do it. cops are very inefficient at doing so, of course. this media is irredeemable

get rid of abusive/exploitative imagery and other media recording other sentient beings as well. i.e. the irl nonhuman animal abuse imagery being circulated right now for some people’s enjoyment

watching vs contributing to tangible harm doesn’t necessarily correlate 1:1 all the time but would highly recommend not getting a viewing habit of abuse content of any sort. esp. seeking out without meaningfully using that to get rid of it asap. cops barely do shit and should not be “the only ones trusted to have large stashes of CSEM to view & share around” either, they exploit that. get their files burnt too. irredeemable media, should not exist.

regarding fiction which does not require the abuse/exploitation/victimization of real-life sentient beings to produce:

no feelings, or other intangible expressions, are moral/immoral. there is no ethical value or de-value for feeling enjoyment upon seeing something, or lacking a feeling of disgust upon seeing something, etc.

viewing fiction by bigots or abusers in a way which contributes to their revenue, fame, or other things which they are tangibly and on significant scale using to harm others isn’t necessarily wrong in a “you are personally causing the death of the planet by using one plastic straw” way, more like “do you really Need to be eating a sandwich at chick-fil-a right now?”

piracy is good. if you pirate personally some bigot thing that people are boycotting for good reason, barring bizarre unlikely edge cases such as “the piracy site records download counts and donates to bigots based on that” there’s not much tangible harm that can result from that. though bragging about you pirating instead of streaming, or touting your piracy in public a lot, probably isn’t the best idea either (as it often adds to the “hype” of the media and people who intend to stream it if they know it exists and start wanting to, so to speak). best to just not talk about it much, and enjoy on your own.

however, regarding fanfiction and other non-profit transformative works done for fandoms of previous media like the above, I have yet to find a good enough argument against doing fanfiction/fanart etc of the above

author is dead? no more proceeds going to fund their bigotry? go wild (within reasonable bounds ofc)

historical examples of bigoted fiction should not be wiped from existence. it is not unethical to view it. there are various reasons why one would want to, i.e. records, learning, but with a critical eye (and it’s perfectly possible to view any fiction with a critical eye, humans aren’t robots/sponges). would prefer distributors to tack on disclaimers if possible & helpful

I don’t understand people who put “people who enjoy [X] irredeemable media” on their DNIs, and those spaces where that is common tend to be extremely toxic to each other and outsiders

Btw Intermission fandom this is still directly aimed at you and your trademark "character A has total power over character B and constantly nonconsensually harms them But they also get some damage from it all and B is attracted to them so it's not abuse, and if you ship abuse you should die"

I think I'm even done mulling over how I had not talked about this earlier or about making a huge post about it

And so very very much aimed at everyone else this applies to

And to make this clear

I support shipping abuse

Shipping abuse does not affect victims of abuse

Saying things like oh xou canst just drop a hyperfixation/SpIn is absolutely ableist!!! But this ^ just feels so wrong. “Don’t worry, I only enjoy it because I Have A Condition and Can’t Help It!”

you’re right in that it’s the responsibility of the audience to think critically about what kind of media they’re consuming, but it’s also the responsibility of the creator to make content that isn’t discriminatory or harmful in the first place

not everyone is conscious and aware of what they consume in media, which gives creators with hurtful/discriminatory views a platform for content that can alter the way people view the discriminated parties. and separating fiction from reality isn’t always a conscious thing; if you consume media unaware and uninformed, you can subconsciously pick up on the harmful messages without even realizing, hence the usage of phrases like internalized racism, internalized homophobia, and other internalized oppression.

there have been many many studies, ted talks, experiments and the like that prove otherwise ( x , x , x , x , and i’ve got plenty more if you’re not convinced )

i’m just curious how do you think propaganda and hidden messages in tv work?

arguing about the content itself is a moot point (and the phrasing of the question suggests you want a surface level argument which i won’t give) so i’ll skip to the important stuff

when i first heard about it i thought h-zbin h-tel was interesting and a little edgy but cool. then, i started to see how it was affecting other people who watched it and read many-a response to how the show treated its characters, and realized it was a flawed piece of media that i personally couldn’t interact with in good conscience

i’m not gonna police what shows you watch, what games you play, or what general media you consume but be aware that the content you interact with affects how you act towards yourself and others, and can even warp how you see the world around you