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âThereâs definitely gonna have to be a moment when Dumbledore goes off and finds his inner robe and his pointy shoes...all his chicness disappears. All his kind of film noir like sort of cold war spy movie-ness goes and in comes Halloween.â
In a new interview video Jude Law joins BBC Radio 1's film critic Ali Plumb to talk about taking on the role of Albus Dumbledore in the Fantastic Beast series. Newt Scamander himself, Eddie Redmayne, pops up to give his take on Jude's performance as the younger version of the iconic Harry Potter character.Â
Jude Law discusses his newest projects, joining the world of 'Star Wars,' going nude when it's called for and his future playing Dumbledore.
Law met with J.K. Rowling, whom he still regards fondly, in 2017, and she filled him in on the complete arc of the story sheâd hatched for these new films. âI had a pretty clear sense of where it was going to go,â Law says, recalling that Rowling gave him many notes, including one that Dumbledore saw himself as a monster.
âAnd thatâs why he liked Newt,â Law says of the character played by Eddie Redmayne in the films, âbecause Newt took care of monsters.â
In the movies, Dumbledore struggles with his identity as a gay man who falls in love with the Dark wizard Gellert Grindelwald. âBecause of Dumbledoreâs past,â Law says, describing a fight with Grindelwald that led to his sisterâs death, âI think he always felt guilty that he had been misled because he was in love. It followed him. He found himself to be unlovable because he trusted his heart.â
Though not a gift from Dumbledore, Yusuf Kama secretly carries a brooch containing a picture of his half-sister, Leta Lestrange, which actor William Nadylam used as an inspiration throughout filming. The brooch was inspire by a Victorian piece found by Colleen Atwood. 'You don't see it that much,' sys Atwood. 'but for him it's a memento from his life.'
Fantastic Beasts ďźThe Secrets of Dumbledore: Movie Magic
William Nadylam: He's going to help defend the world from Grindelwald's action, and eventually, obviously, he doesn't forget. That's another subject there. He doesn't forget.
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Jude Law: "The fact that everything didn't go precisely to plan, was precisely the plan." Ah. Oh, you know what? I've got a good story about this line. That's Dumbledore. I wrote this line. I just thought it was very Dumbledore. "The fact that everything didn't go precisely to plan, was precisely the plan," yeah.
I'd read all the books to my children and I really loved that world. He was absolutely sort of the heartbeat of those books, or rather the spirit. Harry was the heartbeat. There was something in the heart of Dumbledore, there was something in the spirit of the man that I really liked, and in fact, playing him put me in a very good place. Jo Rowling always said to me that he saw himself as a monster because of the way he'd behaved in the past, and he was always trying to forgive himself, but I just always felt like he was a very good, kind man, and it's nice playing good, kind men.
Alien Covenant, The Agency, Inherent Vice, Fantastic Beasts. Throughout your career, youâve played characters who are fighting for control and respect in a world that doesnât really want to give you thatâŚ
âWell, Iâve only played women. Iâm always looking for roles that are complex enough that I can suspend my disbelief though. I need to be able to fall into the fantasy and itâs often those characters that are frustrated, fighting against something or experiencing tension that do it for me.â
It seems like everyone involved in the Fantastic Beasts films has a different take on whether the series will ever get finished â whatâs yours?
âThe last two films probably wonât get made, but thatâs only based on a gut feeling. I know nothing and Iâd probably be one of the last to know if something was happening because with films of that size, people arenât calling up the performers to keep them updated. Do contracts expire? Iâve never thought about that before, but they probably do at some point, right? At the moment we are bound to them but I think that ship has sailed.â
Did it ever feel like a risk to share your views on feminism and trans rights at a time where people like J.K. Rowling were preaching the opposite?
âI didnât think of it as a risk at all. And if it had, I would have done it anyway.â
Some people have suggested thatâs why Tinaâs role was cut down in the third Fantastic Beasts filmâŚ
âWith these huge films, you never know why anything happens. We are just so divorced from the leadership.â
A lot of Harry Potter fans feel conflicted about watching the films or reading the books now. Where do you stand on that?
âFantastic Beasts was such a big break for me. Those films changed my life and I learned a lot from working on something of that scale. Thereâs so much that Iâm grateful for and I want to be really clear about that. I do think about the fans a lot though. Harry Potter is a beautiful trans allegory and what a pity for young people [not to feel comfortable] engaging with that.
âThere are those questions around the tension of two different things â can you be grateful and critical? Yes, of course you can. Life is brief and rife with pain and suffering, so if something brings you joy⌠Thatâs the closest Iâve got to an answer but itâs never felt truly satisfying. I really do love those fans though and the actors I worked with are friends for life. That was the real gift of the experience.â
Another fun one from Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore. This was a coffee and sandwiches cart which was to appear in the train scene. The House Elf operator would push the cart and everything would wobble and look like it was about to fall off. When the cart was stopped, the elf would pull the handbrake and climb the wee stairs to serve customers. Coffee was served from a samovar and sandwiches were dispensed from a spiral chute. Ultimately never made it to the final cut but I think I heard it made it into some BTS stuff. Set decorator Anna Pinnock.
