#fan speculation

That's the point, the questions were meant for their characters and answered as such, it was not about them personally in this context. So, I don’t know why Jacob answered personally about it and Sam was a bit confused about what to do but follow his bestie and answered "I'm committed too". It's getting messier here. Also, people are talking and are disappointed by this whole thing, they feel betrayed and deceived (especially in the queer community during pride) and I can't say they're wrong.

I’m not surprised AT ALL. Not even a little bit. I’ve said to remove your attachment to the outcome and continue to observe.

You all need to make peace with the effort to shut down all fan speculation.

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Elayne: I'm telling you Aviendha, all of the games you play with your spear maidens, they're super gay

Aviendha: what? That is... a ridiculous notion Elayne, where would you get that from

Elayne: well... what was that game you were just playing, Desert's Rose? You just hold someone's head between your thighs until they pass out

Aviendha: yea, Desert's Rose. What is gay about that?

Elayne: all of it, all of it is gay

Aviendha: it's a test of strength

Elayne: ok, that's... well, what about that other game, Veil of Dusk? Someone kissing you while you close your eyes and you have to guess who it is

Aviendha: wordless communication is important to the aiel

Elayne: with your mouth? You need to be wordless with your lips and tongue?

Aviendha: a band of spear maidens must move as one. It's important that we know each other's bodies intimately

Elayne: ok but you hear... you hear yourself saying that right? "Know each other's bodies intimately", you hear those words as you say them

Aviendha: you are so funny Elayne, you always find a way to look at things in strange new ways, even if no one else would think to do it

Elayne: I don't think that's what's happening here. That being said... you know what what would really help me, uhm, understand this part of your culture...

Aviendha: you're not playing the games with us Elayne, you're not a spear maiden

But I always see it referred to as Crowley's Fall, and tbh I think that singles him out too much.

We're told in S1 that the armies of Heaven and Hell are equal-- 10 million angels vs 10 million demons. Which means 10 million angels were deemed rebels and were cast out.

With those kind of numbers, I think it's likely that more angels than not were thrown out for arbitrary reasons, for "just asking questions" or something similar. I don't think we're meant to see Crowley's Fall as uniquely unjust and that he didn't deserve it while all the other rebels did. I think the point is that it was unjust and cruel to do to all of them.

As Crowley says in Eden, "bit of an overreaction if you ask me. I mean, first offense and everything." We also see God describe Herself as a poker player who plays for infinite stakes, who won't tell you the rules. The rebel angels were never told the rules, but they were given a permanent punishment for breaking them anyway, dividing the angels into Good and Bad, forever. When Crowley says he's "unforgivable," that's what he means. It's not about self esteem, it's that he's been given the label of Evil and he can never change it.

What if Daphne/her family is richer than we think?

Not saying that means, like, afford-a-93-million-dollar-painting or fans-would-probably-call-her-unethical-for-not-giving-it-all-away or can't-dream-of-being-even-better-off-without-seeming-greedy levels of rich but this fan on the sub pointed out things like her reactions to things like Morgan's public transit question or dancing-hammer-guy could suggest she's not the kind of person who's really had to need things like public transit or a summer job and I pointed out how that also goes with things like all the metaphorically-random things what lore we've got on her outside her spotlight episode in S2E14 brings up her having done/being able to do (and maybe even the specificity of what she'd do with afford-a-93-million-dollar-painting-level money in S2E8's just what happens when you combine what she'd already have with her hyperfixation) and how she's already got more than just the name tying her to Daphne from Scooby-Doo and in many-if-not-all Scooby-Doo incarnations that really get into character backstories that Daphne is also both some-degree-of-rich-girl-but-not-an-asshole-about-it and what you'd call in D&D terms a "skill monkey". Yeah this might be going off little things but when we've got that little about her that someone could make a theory like that...