be warned: long post. really long post. mostly because i wanted to get this out of my system.
i know no one asked but since i saw @/berlinini sharing why she doesn't like h... here's my take. i've been in this fandom for seven, almost eight, years. i was a larrie for most of them and... i didn't like harry for most of them either.
yes, i am stupid. this isn't some "oh, it took me so long to see something was wrong", it's mostly a "it took me so long to realize what exactly was wrong and to admit i needed to move on".
and i feel like it's important to speak about this because new fans are being pulled into larry, shamed if they don't want to stan harry too, told that louis isn't enough by himself, that he and his art are linked to harry styles and that's how it works. you see it in youtube comments of react channels and under louis own videos with people who discover him from projects. they're fighting tooth and nail to keep that connection alive, grasping at straws to make people believe there's (still) something there.
now, don't get me wrong. i've noticed the shift too. i've noticed there's a lot more of solo louies joining the fandom, i've noticed that he's being related to h and 1D less and less and i'm happy and proud. i still feel like a lot of larries need to open their eyes (i know some of them are harries in disguise, but, judging by my interactions, i also feel like there's lots of smaller accounts that are mostly louies stuck in the same mindset i was).
i still remember where i was when i first heard the rumors about harry, columbia and how much they were paying for him (mind you, this was before everything that happened in 2015, and it turned out to be true). i had no intention to watch dunkirk, i didn't care about the movie or the promo unless louis mentioned it on a interview. i found sign of the times boring. i didn't enjoy hs1 at all. i didn't like the content he was releasing and even back then i felt like he was too distant, out of touch with reality, performative...
to be honest, while there were a few larrie blogs i checked i mostly talked about it with a few friends who are part of the fandom too, and sticked to reading fics or getting excited about ""proof"" in a small circle.
and this small circle can tell you i would never bite my tongue with them about harry and how i felt about his decisions, and about louis career and the sabotage that was going on.
but i never tied the two. sometimes i would ask myself if i wasn't being too harsh on harry, if all of it was part of his public image, if it was true he was a victim of the contracts too, someone in the closet with no options, and i tried to look "past it". while i enjoyed fine line more than hs1 some of the songs weren't for me either (and it took me six months to listen to it). and it was uneasy for me to see him getting so much recognition when he didn't seem thankful, or even interested in what he was putting out, too busy trying to achieve new levels of fame. and every new thing i find out about him makes me dislike him even more. there's no authenticity, no self-respect, no gratitude, only greediness. empty stay at home t-shirts and data-mining BLM and looking like he's giving an eulogy after winning a Grammy (and only thanking the people who paid for it).
with quarantine i fell back into the fandom and made new larrie friends, and i found myself not kinda believing the "proof" they were excited about, or like i was just checking in for the tabloid drama of it all, too obsessed to let go. but in my mind it didn't make sense, and it didn't feel right, for louis, the louis that i saw, to be dating harry stylesâ˘ď¸. sometimes i told myself it was fine if i didn't really like him because louis loved him and it was his personal decision not mine.
i feel like i've been a good judge of character since the beginning, in my case. i picked louis back in 2015 and i'll never regret that decision. i don't think i could ever stop supporting him. but i was so tangled in the idea, had dedicated so much time and energy to larry and that long-suffering, star-crossed soulmate fantasy we built that i wasn't thinking clearly.
i don't think i was actively hurting louis, personally (i never interacted with anyone about larry in other social media platforms, i purchased, supported, tried to promote and streamed his music and only his). in everything but my reading habits i was practically a solo louie already, but yet i was pushing this idea of a relationship that would be really toxic for him, were it to be true.
right now i'm at a point where i feel like i've finally opened my eyes. if they were together, it's obvious they're not anymore. and it's obvious that harry styles is both a blank canvas for sony and the azoffs and someone who doesn't care about what he has to give up for fame. he stopped caring about louis (or anyone who can't either help his career or push his image of the month) in any shape or form, a long time ago.
he surrounds himself with people that don't respect louis neither as a musician nor as a person, and i don't think he does, either. they're not in the same place (mentally and physically, they seem to be unable to be in the same continent for long periods of time). i think i've always known, i just wasn't ready to let go of this fixation i had dedicated so many years to (mostly, fanfiction), and right now i'm pretty firm on my beliefs.
if anyone wants to come and tell me that louis will never be as famous as harry, or that i'm wrong in how i perceive people... go ahead. i don't care. i don't want that level of fame for louis if it comes at that price, and i don't think he wants that either.
i've been here for the highs and the lows of louis career, and i can say i am proud of how his fanbase is growing organically right now, and how he owns his past instead of renouncing it, but he doesn't allow it to define him either. i see a consistency, a hard-working, warm-hearted person, even in the face of everything that has happened.
i see someone worth my time (and my money, which i'm more protective of đ). i never saw that in harry, not even during the early days.
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Alienating your loyal fans when you supposedly need them to buy your shit, support your new music and upcoming tour, and watch your new film(s) seems like an odd flex but you do you.
Antis and âreformedâ Larries can believe what they believe and I never pay attention to them. However, the one thing that I find offensive and irresponsible is when they claim all Larries must suffer from some type of mental illness or trauma and former Larries say they were only in the fandom because they were depressed and vulnerable. That is just wrong.
But theyâve been âborn againâ and their sins have been lifted and their eyesight is now clear! Theyâre preaching the gospel and theyâll shove it down anyoneâs throat! Theyâll doxx and name names and shame out of the kindness of their hearts. Weâre doing it for your own good, they cry as they try to convert people. âWe know itâs just a phase/ your environment/ bad influences. We know you can get better. We know you donât know how sick you are.â This is what conservatives say to get gay kids to go to gay conversion camp. Itâs controlling mind fuck.
Their meanness and obsession with curating fandom belief are truly wack. The implication that they alone have the truth and that the end always justify the means are so manipulative, gross, and cruel, I donât want anything to do with them. Larrie or ex-Larrie or anti, their modus operandi says everything about them. They werenât good and theyâre not good.
So there it is. Interestingly, the walls didnât come crashing down, the earth didnât stop turning, and the seas didnât turn to dust. Iâm still sitting here, in front of my laptop screen, with no visible change to world around me. Well then.
It has taken over a year for me to fully transition to where I am now and to feel comfortable enough to share some of that journey. So, here goes.
Recently I have been speaking with others in the fandom about why it can be challenging for people to walk away even when they want to, and it has been fascinating. Ultimately, what Iâve found is that many Larries stay because they donât want to lose their âcommunityâ and for those that are particularly heavily immersed in Larriedom, the leap from Larrie to ex-Larrie can be significant. Being a Larrie can impact your day-to-day life in varying ways, and in many cases, you may not even realise how deep it runs until you start the process of moving away from that environment.
Thereâs little value in going into the what/when/where/why scenarios that influenced my own decision to become an ex-Larrie. There was no epiphany moment and nothing I can point others to that fully explains why. The reality is that it was a series of small things that accumulated over time and being in the right headspace to look at things with a critical eye, being ready to be honest with myself, and a preparedness to admit that I had been wrong.
Perhaps this testimonial will resonate with others who are wavering, perhaps it will provide some level of comfort in knowing that what youâre feeling isnât unique, and that maybe youâre not alone. If it serves no other purpose than that, then putting it out there will have been worthwhile.
So why does it feel so difficult to leave?
Community: A sense of community is something that most people inherently seek out, whether in real life, or in their online life. At times, being a Larrie can seem comforting and reassuring. It can feel safe and welcoming. Feeling that you are part of something bigger; part of a âteamâ standing side-by-side and fighting for those that you believe canât fight for themselves can be a powerful thing. But as you start to question the validity of these beliefs, the reality of what it could mean to leave that world behind can start to settle uncomfortably.
Friends: Being a Larrie enables you to form bonds with other like-minded individuals. These friendships form fast and firm, irrespective of physical location; drawn together online and fighting the good fight in the trenches against the boysâ âteamsâ, the media at large, and any other person or organisation that is being focused on at that time. But what happens when youâre no longer embroiled in this imagined battle? The basis for these friendships will no longer exist and, with such opposing viewpoints, they may end.
Entertainment: As a Larrie, there is always something with which to occupy your time; whether scrolling through your timeline on various social media platforms, reblogging cute gifs or manips, chatting to your Larrie friends, catching-up on the latest drama or following along as some old conspiracy theory is dredged up and rehashed. There appears to be an almost limitless supply of things to keep you entertained. Itâs easy for people to say âwell, find another hobby then, study something, read a book etcâ, but that kind of paradigm shift takes time and can seem overwhelming.
Online Imprint: Once you make the decision that you want to separate yourself from Larriedom, what then? If youâve cultivated an online presence predicated on the belief that Larry is real it might be everywhere, in every corner of your online imprint. Unless youâve been very careful, you may have also shared pieces of who you are in real life, forever linking you to this world. You can lessen the impact but can it truly be eradicated? Screen shots, as they say, are forever.
In Real Life: What happens if youâve made your Larrie beliefs public to your friends/family/co-workers in real life? It can be a very reasonable concern for some people and you may be worried how youâre going to extract yourself from this without suffering from some level of embarrassment.
What are some of the personal impacts of being a Larrie?
Time: Time and what you do with it is an interesting concept regardless of whether you have too much or not enough. When I turned my back on being a Larrie I was suddenly presented with an abundance of time. It was a genuine shock to discover exactly how much of my precious time I had been devoting to keeping abreast of the minute-by-minute âupdatesâ.
FOMO: There is a disturbing sense of needing to ensure you are constantly wired-in to what is happening in Larriedom. This need can become consuming. Itâs unhealthy. Itâs distracting. Itâs disturbing.
Music: Music has always been a big part of my life. Being part of a fandom for members of a band obviously means that music is a huge part of that experience. But being a Larrie also means that many of those songs have taken on specific meanings. I hope over time this will change and I can once again appreciate these songs for what they are.
Relationships: As a Larrie, you can find yourself closing off a big part of who you are and what you spend your time doing from those around you in real life. After all, who would understand? It can limit your ability to make new connections because you feel the need to hide this part of yourself. Whether through embarrassment (which should in reality be a massive red flag in and of itself), an unwillingness to share your online persona, or the fear of being stigmatized.
Stress: Experiencing an unpleasant physical reaction when you see an alert pop on your phone for someoneâs Instagram or Twitter is not healthy. Being afraid to open that notification because youâre worried youâll see something that doesnât fit your Larry construct is not normal. Having to steel yourself in preparation, and then force your eyes to open and actually look at your phone screen is concerning.
Goalposts: You set yourself arbitrary deadlines for things to happen. âIf âitâ hasnât happened by x date then Iâll leaveâ, you say. But then it doesnât happen, so you move the goalposts for some seemingly plausible and justifiable reason. You reset your expectations, but that niggling feeling telling you something is inherently wrong gets louder each time.
Exhaustion: You wait and wait, believing that one day it will all be worth it and Larry will be âfreeâ. Theyâll strut the red carpet of some movie premiere or awards show hand-in-hand. Theyâll be lauded in publications as the power couple of a generation. Theyâll do interviews with Ellen and Oprah and grace the pages of fashion magazines. Except they wonât. Because this isnât a fantasy. Itâs hard to live off tiny pieces of contrived âproofâ waiting for something that will never, ever happen.
Disappointment: Being a Larrie can be a constant, soul-crushing disappointment. You latch onto every tenuous link about a t-shirt someone wears or the colors in the background of an Instagram video or the lyrics of a song or a follow on Twitter and, along with your Larrie counterparts, proclaim them to be secret coded messages. You cling to every shred of hope and over-analyze every minuscule detail. But thereâs never anything concrete, because of course, there canât be.
Regret: Moving on means acknowledging you were wrong, that this thing that youâve ardently supported is a falsehood, a fantasy, and so removed from reality that it can be slightly mortifying to admit. From my perspective, I acknowledge and regret many things from my time as a Larrie and I am sorry that I perpetuated and publicized these untruths.
Itâs been nearly 18 months since I started this process, from the very first time doubts started to creep into the back recesses of my mind. My journey has been long and the road has been bumpy at times, but Iâm here now as a testament to the success that process can be.
I am happier, I am enjoying my fandom experience far more than I ever did as a Larrie, and my real life has changed for the better. I have made new fandom friendships by seeking out like-minded individuals and whilst that was hard at the beginning, as with most things in life, it just took time, patience, and perseverance.
If you read this and identify with any of what Iâve said, I would encourage you to reflect on whether it may also be time for you to leave Larriedom behind. Reach out to others who have gone through similar journeys or send me a message, Iâll always be happy to talk and provide you with any support I can.
At the end of the day, the more people that make the move in a considered and positive way, the softer the landing will be for those that follow.
Thanks for taking the time to read this and I hope that it can, even in some small way, help others to make the break.
Not sure if youâve covered this already but one of the oddest anti/former larrie behaviors Iâve seen (and several of them bring it up often)- they offer to help newcomers? They encourage them to contact them so that theyâre not brainwashed by Larries and itâs oddly repentant? Something about it makes me very uncomfortable. Probably because a lot of these people are adults and it doesnât feel right that anyone should be mentoring young people about a goddamn boyband. Especially antis haha.
Omg, that is so uncomfortable. People who live in politically repressive countries, where thereâs a history of making political prisoners write âconfessionals,â will recognize the tactic. Iâm also thinking about psychological experiments on humiliation, self-doubt, and gaslighting. One of these was a Harvard psych experiment that involved Ted Kazcynski, or the Unibomber, who would later kill three people and maim 23.
People who are not trained psychologists and therapists should not do amateur therapy. Itâs not helpful. Itâs frequently harmful. Especially when it comes to something as stressful and potentially hurtful as fandom politics. Donât engage in this.
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I was wondering what exactly made you stop believing in Larry? I joined the fandom last February because "elounor' was trending on twitter when Louis & El were on a beach for valentines day and everyone was freaking out so I sort of stumbled across Larry (I'd known about it for a while but, I never paid any attention to it until then) So, I started following what I thought was 1D blogs but it was actually just Larries and I got sucked into it (like believing everything) up until Louis on GMA
(x)(x) These posts should help answer that my friend. But hereâs the main argument that made me stop believing: Despite how famous Harry Styles is, both inside the fandom and out, and despite the fact he has pictures being taken of him constantly from paps, fans, and non-fans who just want to say theyâve seen him in real life, not one of them has ever managed to take a picture of him and Louis secretly together after more than five years. Some random person who knows nothing about 1D at the very least would be bound to take a picture of him and Louis together and mindlessly post it online before Modest could pay them off. And given the dynamics of the fandom, a picture like that from paps would sell for way more than what Modest could pay them off for.Â
I hope you don't mind me asking - what was it that drew you into being a larrie "believer"? As in, someone who firmly believed in larrie as a real life relationship rather than just a fun ship?
So I think Iâve talked a lot about why I stopped being a Larrie, but I donât think Iâve talked much about how I became one. I think for me it was three things- first how incredibly naive I was about the music/entertainment industry. Until I became a 1D fan, I had been oblivious to almost all pop culture for the past 10-15 years of my life. So my first reaction was thinking that Larries had figured out Larry because social media had made celebrities more transparent for the better or worse. Second was not understanding the dynamics of the band. I didnât understand that Harry and Louis played up their bromance at first. So taking a lot of Larry moments out of context like these (x), it might indeed look like they had more than a bromance going on. And third was the emotional appeal. You watching the emotionally gripping youtube videos and think something along the lines of, âLarry is real this is the most beautiful true love story of all time Iâm cryingâ So for a while I didnât want to look at the counterarguments. I remember watching Larry YouTube videos for a solid 3 hours when I first learned of Larry Stylinson and feeling so lucky that I had found this incredible love story that was actually true. I wanted to keeping believing in this fairy tale but ultimately it became too difficult once I started seeing the the other point of view.