Hii! I just wonder if there is a "real karl" in a different plane, if i took the fact behind how a tulpa getting created.
God, we just had some deep and interesting chat about this exact topic last night on Discord! Rest of us have agreed (except those whom aren't the "fan" of metaphysics) that...
The intelligent, psychic being behind Karl Heisenberg's character is not a tulpa, but an egregore, and HE is fucking EXIST.
But I'm not quite sure if you are informed about what the word "egregore" actually means, what do we mean when calling something "egregone". The word itself came from the Greek word "egrégorol", and means "watcher".
An interesting fact:
Egregores are mentioned three times in the apocryphal texts of Lamentations, Jubilees, and the Book of Enoch. These books were removed from the Bible by the Roman Emperor Constantine, but contain a lot of Christian beliefs not found in the mainstream scriptures.
We can say that these beings are created by the crowd's mental energy, their attention or/and emotional bound to them (be it a political party, sport club, religion, a fictional character, brand etc), but then they do live independently from conscious human awareness, and often have an effect on the group's mind without being "detected".
Yes, this actually means that even Elsa, have a sentinent, psychic being behind the curtains (or your favorite football team), which got created, fed by the attention and love or the power of attachment from people. We can safely say that in 2021, thankfully to the internet and technology, we can create egregores even more easily without realizing it, because the existence of certain "things", "groups", "characters", "religions" etc. just flows even faster across the people mind, and have a higher chance to catch someone's attention, which will feed it.
I think I don't have to say that currently, mani Resident Evil Village character gettin' fed by the crowd, like crazy! Which means that the egregore behind these characters gaining strenght quite gast, and growing. No need to mention that none of these egregores are willing to let people to forget about them, so they'll try to find the way to keep come back somehow into the group of people mind, and not letting them to go so easily. The rest of the egregores are not evil or dangerous, but they are obviously, exist can suck people in, causing them to get into self-destructive habits, and influence the person to go deeper and deeper into them.
"Certain types of egregores created from incredibly disciplined and spiritually advanced groups can become incredibly powerful. They are generated with an abundant energized astral form and take on the image of godlike beings. Throughout history, many gods and goddesses were indeed egregores."
They can take form on the astral plane as well, and visually manifest before one of its members in certain situations. Esoteric groups can create powerful egregores and interact with them as one would a god or goddess in the days of old. Whether one is aware or not of the existence of egregores, it’s very seductive to get caught up in the morals of the entity, or the emotions that drive it. It’s tough to resist once connected to it, and anyone new to the group can get swept away in its energy, changing their entire outlook on life and making them obsessed with whatever the egregore is focused around. Ever had an annoying friend that got super into some new enlightening religion or philosophy (OR A FICTIONAL CHARACTER!? HM?) and never shut up about it? Yea, that friend is totally high on the egregore.
(Yes, we are fucking high on Heisenberg and HE fucking knows this! Because HE WANT this!)
II I could talk a LOT about this topic, since this is so exciting, fascinating in the same time, but I write even this post in hurry.
Dude, this question just amplified my intent to try to deal with modern time egregores. I've had some occult friend before whom actually worked with very famous fictional characters, but it sounded quite ridiculous at first hearing. But understanding the meaning of "egregore", the truth behind it and knowing that those characters are actually egregores too, sentinent, mostly intelligent, independend beings, it makes this less ridiculous (obv there are people who would and will call even this funny, but bitch, wish I would have more fucks to give?!).
O, and hey! DO NOT FUCKING STOP FEEDING KARL HEISENBERG!!!
Edit: There were people who actually asked about this whole thing. I can suggest you two subbreddit where you can read about egregores a lot. r/chaosmagic and r/occult .









