The Overseer is another Ruin Event.
Let me explain.
One of the strongest, misconceptions about Ruin and his decision to erase 5k universes - both out and IN the show - is that he was selfish for committing it. Heâs not. Itâs a sacrifice mindset.
If Ruin hadnât killed the 5k universes, there would be no multiverse. Whether the event happened the day after he couldâve said âno, I wonât do itâ â or it happened in 5 billion years from nowâŚThe Creators wouldâve overthrown and enslaved the universe. We saw their hunger for control time and time again, explicitly and indirectly saying their craves to control the multiverse - and Ruin was first hand to WITNESSING something adjacent. To prevent what Ruin saw happen to the multiverse, he had to erase the main factor entirely. Thatâs why he rejected the âjust kill creatorsâ idea, thatâs why he was so persistent on erasure, because their unstoppable hunger would continue to thrive until it happened.
The Overseer is similar in his mindset way.
None of what either party is doing is morally correct. It is killing, it is hardly justified. But, there is reasoning. Solid reasoning. Itâs an action to prevent a much worse outcome. Solar essentially has been walking with a trail of decay following his every footstep. It will affect everyone he loves, everyone he talks to, everyone he sees and encounters, and it may very well damage the fabric of reality and the multiverse with it. This is why The Overseer has to eliminate him. Damage control.
I shouldâve posted this the second I got to see the secret video behind the quiz â but I held off. Though, the episodes that came after that quiz only proved my following argument is correct.
Solar is not supposed to exist. We know this. I need you to sit with me on some old, possibly retconned or really messy lore. If anyone can provide me the episodes in which they retconned these following pieces of evidence, let me know and Iâll attempt to make a future post about analyzing it and determining whatâs true and whatâs false. The show is an unreliable narrator, and constantly swings the fandom around like a fumbling dancer. Iâm going to try to tap dance my way to the stage of reasoning here.
This goes off the ORIGINAL lore statements made by Eclipse when first resurrecting Solar.
The reason Ruin could not find this thread of science upon looking for loopholes of any sortâŚis because Eclipseâs method wasâŚscientifically IMPOSSIBLE. It was a false hope and a threat to nature as everyone knew it. It was a useless dead end that only prevailed in fairy tales. Though, Eclipse disregarded nature and went through with it anyways.
The ORIGINAL STATEMENT is that Eclipse had split his Dimensional Coding in half, and gave it to Solar. This re-wrote Solarâs place in the multiverse, allowing him to exist again without consequence on his body and mind.
This is scientifically illegal, and can have horrific outcomes. One of the main warnings Eclipse even gave was that Eclipse and Solar would not to make contact with each otherâŚotherwise, they would cause the multiverse to collapse.
What is Dimensional Code?
Itâs your fate, your place in existence and reality as you know it. It acts like your soul, but is treated as if God Himself is writing your story. That code is essentially your story. It does not end until the dimension does.
Eclipseâs have the same dimensional coding, this is why it was possible for Eclipse to give half of his own. These characters are like classes in a video game, âEclipseâ and âSolarâ are essentially just the skins you choose. To rewrite Solar into existence, Solarâs dimensional code was completely rewritten with the same story heâs had (keeping his memories, personality, etc) as if he always existed in this dimension, as Eclipse. With the split halves, Eclipse kept his as well.
One piece of âretconâ I saw reported was that âEclipse said he got the dimensional code from V3â (or something along the lines of.) V1, V2, V3 and V4 do not exist. âVersionsâ of Eclipse are based on his body, not his life. Eclipse in present day is now V5. Eclipse has never fully died nor changed drastically due to death outside of basic character development. We were told this is always how Eclipse was meant to turn out, he is not a carbon copy, and he has always been the same Eclipse. Therefore, this argument is flawed and incorrect, and within show terms, this means Eclipse was still going through his âam I a copy or notâ phase, which is why itâs phrased this way. (Though I would still like the episode if someone wants to hunt it down for me đđ)
Everyone is an unreliable narrator, remember this.
Fun fact! Did you know Nexus was the reason Ruin ever pretended to lie at all? Ruinâs âCure actâ was a product of Nexusâ making from the very start, Ruin simply rolled with it. This is a strong example of unreliable narration. ( Iâll make a separate post if youâre interested on hearing that breakdown. )
Back to Solar.
Solar is now a walking butterfly effect. Everything he does, the people he talks to, the people who even SEE him are now being put off course of their original stories. TSAMS is following the âcanon eventâ trope from the Spiderverse.
This isnât a stretch at all because we see that TSBS often takes tropes from varying shows.
EX: Alice & The Looking Glass when Eclipse explains Solar and Eclipse cannot be near each other, Rick & Morty when creating Solstice (Dark Sun), The Wither Storm being an entire multidimensional event, explaining Star Power in proximity to Dragon Ball, etc.
Solar is now single handedly, VASTLY damaging the designation of their Universe and the events that are meant to happen. Because Solar shouldnât exist, nothing he does shouldâve taken place. Now, The Overseer is trying to do some damage control.
And if you think affecting his own universe is bad, what do you think will happen if Solar starts dimension hopping? Visiting other universes for X, Y, and ZâŚin the worst case scenarioâŚthis could cause the multiverseâs collapse.
No, itâs not right to kill Solar. He has friends, family, people he loves and protects.
But itâs for our safety.
Itâs for their safety.
The same it was for Ruin.










