Oct 23, 2025
I blame @dross-the-fish for this. I didn't even know there were different editions before following him!
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I blame @dross-the-fish for this. I didn't even know there were different editions before following him!
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A fanart for @dross-the-fish
I really like Dross's design of Edward Hyde and his idea of the friendship of Edward and Alice, so I decided to do a little fanart :)
@dross-the-fish’s Adam Frankenstein in doodle style 😜
Based on this drawing 🖤🖤
sending you positive vibes. Honestly you are too nice to have to deal with anons like that.
Awh thanks! I’ll be fine! 😅
More or less finished version of the doodle based on @dross-the-fish ’s ficlet of Erik attacking Adam lmaoooo
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Even your drafts are amazing. I love how much personality and life they have. Your compositions are so vibrant and dynamic! I just *chefs kiss*
thanks!!!
Hi, Xan, throwing my two cents at you. Indie artists like you're describing are actually small business owners first and artists second. If they didn't make art they would be marketing something else. I'm not going to comment whether their art is "real" art or not but it's very rarely work they are passionate about. Even the "passion" for their work or it's "authenticity" is a selling point that they market to the audience. Maybe it's because I'm on the other side of the fence. I make money off of my art by signing on to projects and working for a client as an illustrator and it's more or less the same process as working my regular 9-5, with deadlines and everything, but I struggle to think of indie artists as artists first and not business owners. In terms of how a lot of indie artists actually view art? I've found that they have more in common with my clients than my co-workers. To them it's ultimately a game of marketability and that's why you see them emulating popular styles and sticking with certain designs. I don't doubt there are plenty of them that genuinely like art and maybe they make art creatively on their own time, but their principal goal is money and more than a good half of them that I've met are aware of and even intentionally reproducing work that has been proven to be a quick and easy sell. Again, not to determine what makes art good or bad, but quality is only so important to people like this in that it has to be good enough that it will sell. My boss on any project is the same mindset, that's why the work I do under a client doesn't look like my regular art. It often looks more like art that is already been audience tested and has a proven appeal. It very much is the difference between "creating content" and "making art" and the reality is that when you sell art for profit it's very very rare that the art you like or want to make is going to make you money. You will either be paid to make what your boss tells you to or you're going to start thinking less "what do I want to make" and more "What is my best seller?" I think indie artists are sometimes disingenuous about the fact that they are actually capitalists.
Hi, Dross! And no worries, this is a topic I always find really interesting in terms of class analysis, and I always appreciate your very thoughtful and nuanced thoughts on everything, including art.
But yeah, I p much agree with you on everything here, and thank you for sharing your personal experience as a working artist outside of the small business owner indie artist paradigm that seems to be the popular conception of what it means to be a full-time artist right now; I feel like there was a time when people used to be more honest about things like how they didn't actually love drawing fanart, but felt like they had to draw it bc it's the only artwork that sells, and if they had their choice, they would rather draw original art - but I guess that's not great for marketing, so I feel like I have been seeing way more of the living the small business owner doing art I love for a living hashtag girlboss ceo mindset, and that's just part of the whole capitalism game, but selling the lifestyle along with the art, I guess.
Actually, come to think of it, re: what you said about how some of them would be marketing something else if they weren't selling art, I have also noticed that IG suggests a lot of artist videos to me that initially look like drawing tutorials, but they always turn out to be sponsored posts advertising art supplies they received for free and trying to convince you to buy them too with an affiliate code so they get commission - and like, I get it, people have bills to pay, but I always end up feeling less like I'm looking at art (it's not even a drawing half the time, just swatches) and more like I watched an ad by an influencer, and I have definitely seen an increase in people trying to become full-time artists to get these kind of advertising deals.
But yeah, when I have thought about what kind of working artist I would want to be if I was one, I concluded that I would rather work as a proletariat artist in a factory or studio manufacturing pottery as my paying job, and then do my own thing on my own time as a hobby, than be a small business owner indie artist bc in addition to not wanting to exploit people even further than I already am by virtue of being in the imperial core, I don't like the idea of having to constantly make things according to what would sell and then dealing with the consequences if I'm wrong - I think it would kill any enjoyment I have in art, personally, especially as someone who doesn't even like business stuff.