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Dumary Synopsis

if its hard to read:

"In ancient times, a religion arising somewhere east of the Mediterraneon Ocean split into many different factions. Its disciples quickly carried it to western Asia, Europe, and North Africa, As time passed, some gods from the various sects were forgotten, others were assimilated into other religions, and still others were shunned as evil.

For one reason or another, the gods all but disappeared.

What few people continued worshipping them were branded as heretics. The dissenters were forced to turn their backs on their own homelands in order to continue in their beliefs.

Venturing farther and farther away, the outcasts eventually found themselves adrift in an unknown land floating on the outskirts of the New World. This was Dumary Island.

Hordes of refugees of different races, beliefs and languages crossed over to the island, The first to arrive followed the sea routes of the old Viking expiorers, around the North Pole and through the Pacific Ocean. Following them come runaway slaves seeking sanctuary.

The newoomers all had a single common point- belief in a pagan religion. Tribes that had historically skirmished over old differences running deep in their cultures now lived together peaceably on the same island."

"As the generations passed, the former strangers blended together into a single people. Their mix of different languages, ethnic customs and various gods gave birth to new, totally unique religions

The gods worshipped by the new blend of people were on ancient family of beings inhabiting a different dimension. They wielded strange powers and existed outside the concepts of right and wrong. Deities that were considered evil or pagan in the old world were, on Dumary Island, simply thought of as "other gods" there were far too many of them to count. Rites performed in honor of these idols often resembled exorcisms and demon sealing ceremonies.

The priests of these cults were known as "guardians" and were sometimes called upon to protect the gods and their worshippers.

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So, I found another song which you can find it here. This time, it relates to the one and only. Nero's mother or Lady in Red (LiR)

The whole song is very sad as this is the perspective of LiR.

Not gonna lie, after reading this. I'm already convince LiR is our Kurosaki Masaki of DMC. This will be hard so, I will really try to analyze. I will make another post for parallels but, very spoiler for BLEACH

Verse 1:

There′s a bridge I must walk

But I fear I'll never cross

Where angels fear to tread

Where darkness is bred

Another lore info, but its hard currently given there is no new canon lore. Let's just break it down

There′s a bridge I must walk But I fear I'll never cross

It was hinted in the Deadly Fortune novel that currently Mundus is in-between the Human and Demon World. We don't know where that place is given Dante re-sealed Mundus to god knows where

Where angels fear to tread

It's hard to tell given that there is no literal heavenly angels in DMC as Itsuno literally debunked the whole idea of what could be described as people wanted... Christian angels. The game is strictly Human vs Demon

In canon lore, angels are just demons in disguise pretending to be angels.

Where darkness is bred

This make sense. Why?

It was hinted where Mundus was born in the manual of DMC1

Another interpretation for this verse is.. well.. LiR is in a verge of death and entering into a purgatory state.

Why not Heaven?

Well... dear reader. Heaven in DMC is another word for Hell or the Demon World. I talked about it in-depth regards to it

Another a scrap concept idea that can be seen in DMC5 Artbook

But ordinary people don't know that especially, in canon DMC universe

The best way that a soul is in a purgatory state is... If said soul still has lingering problem/s need to be solved in the Human World. As you can see in Madhouse 2007 DMC Anime Episode 7: Wishes Come True

Verse 2:

A place I used to know

In the night we weren′t alone

The promise of a last breath

Now has me hanging by a golden thread

This is interesting... There is a place somewhere where LiR and Vergil are not really alone, yet they know the place if you take it literally

The promise of a last breath Now has me hanging by a golden thread

The golden thread refers to the Greek Mythology, as there are two myths:

first is Ariadne's thread and

second The Threads of Fate

In Greek myth, it talks about the three sisters (the Moirai or Fates) weaving a mortal or divine's fate or destiny.

Clotho - spun the thread of life which is birth

Lachesis - measured the thread of life, which are the ups and downs of one's own lived-in experience

Athropos - the cutter of the thread of life which is death

The Threads of Fate make sense. Why?

It connects her saying "last breath", "me hanging by a golden thread", and the chorus

Which can be interpreted as she is hanging between life and death.

Chorus:

Make my soul clean

Pour the gasoline

Burning all the fears away

Make the rain come

Make the pain numb

Washing all the stains away

This is a very Kurosaki Masaki vibe.. Literally

It make sense as she sees or thinks her soul was "tainted" since she love the eldest son of Sparda who is half-demon that she feels it's unforgiven. There's no ill-will just the reality of how her worldview for humanity sees it.

Her saying "Pour the gasoline" was a metaphor to both extinguishing pain for herself and Vergil taking actions that will make it an argument and a problem as a foreshadowing.

Which is him (Devil Moon) literally doing it.. "With strength, I will go on"

Make the rain come Make the pain numb Washing all the stains away

This part talks about the rain symbolizing despair and sorrow.

While "making the pain numb", and "washing all the stains" hints of her being badly wounded. Thinking that the rain will wash all her blood.

This is an image of her dying in the rain.

This connects to Devil Moon which is.. "I've seen angels fall"

Like Eva, Vergil's sees LiR like an angel having an angel-like personality.

Like Eva, LiR was killed by demons

and guess who ordered it?

Verse 3:

There used to be a light inside

That I never had to hide

There were fields of green

Lakes calm, serene... so much beauty to describe

The whole verse is a symbolism and thematic meaning of what LiR thinks about humanity. As humanity is another meaning of Light in DMC, besides a literal light.

Humanity once existed strongly within her heart. She felt connected to people, hope, compassion, and the human spirit. She never felt the need to suppress those feelings. Her humanity was something she could openly embrace rather than conceal.

Green fields symbolize life, growth, vitality, and the simple beauty of the human world.

The peaceful lakes represent tranquility, emotional stability, and harmony. An idealized image of humanity at its best.

She remembers finding countless reasons to admire humanity, seeing wonder and value in the human world.

Yet, at some point it was changed since she said "There used to be". Which is how it connects to what humanity could do when a person wanted more power... To become a God just because of them wanting demonic power in exchange for their humanity.

It change her worldview

Verse 4:

But then a prince came with a blackened

And spread a poison through these parts

The only remedy is to cross this bridge

Fade the memory of this bondage

This is where you question LiR's mentality at this point. Especially her saying

"But then a prince came with a blackened. And spread a poison through these parts".

Besides her meeting Vergil..

It make sense canonically when it talks about a person learning the existence of demons or related to Sparda

People ended up being in a mental institute

In DMC, it's considered a mental illness thinking demons exist, when the public doesn't know nor believe it and treat it as fictional.

The only way to prevent is to keep it to yourself.

The existence of demons

The existence that someone is related to Sparda

Everything related to the Demon World

This is the reason why Dante refuse to talk to a reporter of what really happened when he was a child (Discarded Note DMC5), and Nero regards to Fortuna in Before the Nightmare

This is lore pre-DMC5 just to be clear.

Remember Jessica in DMC1 novel? The eldest of Grue's daughters alongside her siblings Tiki and Nesty?

Jessica was sent to the sanatorium or mental institute as she is hallucinating

Another hint... Remember what Nico said regarding The Legend of Sparda?

I can imagine what Mama'd say if I told her I partnered up with a bonafide descendant of Sparda. She'd have me strapped up in a straightjacket, for sure!

Nico saying "She'd have me strapped up in a straightjacket". She is imagining her own mother Alisa will make Nico wear a straightjacket thinking her own daughter is already insane.

In this verse, we can conclude that the "poison" was in fact her worldview being destroyed. The knowledge itself that demons in fact are real, and that Vergil is in fact a son of Sparda.

Which connects to my analysis in Devil Moon

This contradicts to what the fans think and what the people of Fortuna think of her which is... She's a prostitute and just a one-night stand

There is a reason why Nero fought back as a child. He was told time and time again when he was still an orphan before he was fostered that he is a "bastard child".

He couldn't stand the idea of his own mother is a prostitute. Rumors were started from adults, then passed down to their own child until, he was bullied by those children.

Fortuna as a society made Nero as a social outcast because of this

Chorus 2:

Make my soul clean

Pour the gasoline

Burning all the fears away

Make the rain come

Make the pain numb

Washing all the stains away

Make the night small

Make the light tall

Asking angels now to stay

Make my mind rest

Make my heart undress

Setting my spirit free

Bridge:

Ooooh Ooooooh

Oh how I've tried

To turn the lights on

I will try to connect the second half of chorus 2 and bridge.

LiR tried to turn the lights on meaning her becoming Vergil's anchor to his humanity. This connects to how Vergil deeply kept his secret love to her which is him burying it in his chest (Bury the Light)

Beyond the tree Fire burns Secret love Bloodline yearns Dark minds embrace Crimson joy Does your dim heart Heal or destroy?

But she herself entrusted it to her son, Nero. Like she is asking the universe to not let her son be consumed by darkness fully, to stand tall against darkness

Make the night small Make the light tall Asking angels now to stay

She is asking her innocent baby boy to be safe, to stay.

But stay to whom exactly? None other than... Vergil.

Why Vergil?

There is no ill-will between LiR and Vergil. It's just them longing for each other. She became his center of the universe after Eva died.

For Nero, Vergil currently has a reason. Knowing full well he is his son post-DMC5.

The father and son met physically

But...

Nero and Vergil already met during one of Nero's dreams when he is also in the verge of life and death. It happened twice in the novel.

This goes to show the Cry of the Soul. I talked about why Dadgil is canon in-depth

In short, Vergil first buried his light as deep inside his chest is his love for LiR. He buried it again this time for Nero to show how he really cares for him deeply.

like imagine if this was dante's first time, in his whole time working at dmc, that one of his fucking client is a ghost and he goes along with it.

Short answer: You didn’t miss anything, this was standard operating procedure for an early-mid 2000’s action game. Nobody really gave a shit about consistency, especially not the way we do now lol.

Actual answer: You still didn’t miss anything, but the general timeline as of DMC5 is Sparda rebelling and sealing off the entire underworld (including Mundus) >> ~19 y/o Vergil falls into the underworld after opening Temen-ni-gru; decides to fuck around and find out and loses to Mundus > Mundus tries to use Mallet Island as a gateway to the human world; decides to fuck around and find out and loses to ~28 y/o Dante.

There’s absolutely no canon basis for it. Capcom a Platinum Games are two different companies, and current series director Hideaki Itsuno / series creator Hideki Kamiya just like to nod to each other.

I think it’s a cute enough fan theory for an AU, but yeah. It holds absolutely no weight in canon. DMC has also stated that that Eva was human more than once with little fanfare. Her getting absolutely massacred so fast makes little sense if she had any sort of powers. More importantly, Vergil’s complete disdain for humans/their frailty makes absolutely no sense if she was an unbra witch (or literally anything non-human). Vergil’s heart is also specifically referred to as a “human heart”, which is why it’s considered “weak”. So. Yeah.

(I’m not saying umbra witches, or witches in general, can’t exist in this universe, though — even Nevan is referred to as a “lightning witch”.)

Also, from a writing standpoint regarding Eva as anything other than human, it takes away from the idea that Vergil and Dante are outsiders with one foot in the human realm and one in the underworld, not quite belonging in either, with one choosing humanity and one choosing demon kind — red oni, blue oni; yin and yang — if you throw in “oh and they’re part witch too! :D”. It’s fine for self-indulgent fanfiction, it’s kind of lame and comes off as very “baby’s first OC” in canon.

D&V are already wildly op, and there’s a pretty solid theory floating around that the you only need a drop of demon blood to become really powerful. So yeah. Adding in “but also, witches!” is just... bleh. Kind of kills all the interesting lore and speculations.

It's sad to see how some parts of the fandom literally ignore DMC2 as a whole in particular the DMC subreddit. The general reception is mixed reactions. I said, mixed due to the fact that I don't want to ignore people who like DMC2.

It's also reinforce what the devs feelings about it. You don't have to blame the devs themselves (current DMC development staff). Time and time again.. they will feel sorry for what they did. Blame the higher-ups.

This in turn, also affected DMC2 lore itself and was ignored or better yet forgotten already. When in fact how important both stories of 2000 years, and 100 years. To the point, it affected the whole story and the ruling of Demon Kings

Dumary Synopsis or the History of Dumary Island

In ancient times, a religion arising somewhere east of the Mediterranean Ocean split into many different factions. Its disciples quickly carried it to western Asia, Europe, and North Africa. As time passed, some gods from the various sects were forgotten, others were assimilated into other religions, and still others were shunned as evil.

For one reason or another, the gods all but disappeared. What few people continued worshipping them were branded as heretics. The dissenters were forced to turn their backs on their own homelands in order to continue in their beliefs.

Venturing farther and farther away, the outcasts eventually found themselves adrift in an unknown land floating on the outskirts of the New World. This was Dumary Island.

Hordes of refugees of different races, beliefs and languages crossed over to the island. The first to arrive followed the sea routes of the old Viking explorers, around the North Pole and through the Pacific Ocean. Following them came runaway slaves seeking sanctuary.

The newcomers all had a single common point – belief in a pagan religion. Tribes that had historically skirmished over old differences running deep in their cultures now lived together peaceably on the same island.

As the generations passed, the former strangers blended together into a single people. Their mix of different languages, ethnic customs and various gods gave birth to new, totally unique religions. The gods worshipped by the new blend of people were an ancient family of beings inhabiting a different dimension. They wielded strange powers and existed outside the concepts of right and wrong. Deities that were considered evil or pagan in the old world were, on Dumary Island, simply thought of as "other gods" – there were far too many of them to count. Rites performed in honor of these idols often resembled exorcisms and demon sealing ceremonies.

The priests of these cults were known as “guardians” and were sometimes called upon to protect the gods and their worshippers. Many were the legends of guardians who had borrowed the power of their own gods to defeat enemy gods. One recent tale, only a few hundred years old, told of a great swordsman appearing from "the outside" to aid in exorcising the most evil god of all time.

Over the centuries, Dumary Island’s success in supporting the worship of unique religions while maintaining its existence out of the mainstream has been nothing short of miraculous. Lately, however, agents of international corporations have quietly begun infiltrating the island. Their purpose is to acquire the “special ores” discovered in the island’s interior.

On Dumary Island, the people’s simple religious piety, as well as the fabulous artifacts buried in the inner mountains, are now in great danger... (DMC2 instruction manual)

Balrog is Argosax's right-hand, and Bolverk his most powerful soldier (Before the Nightmare and DMC2 enemy profile)

A portion of the people in Vie de Marli started worshipping Argosax, and eventually summoned him

The Protectors deemed Argosax a threat and attempt to banish him, but was unable to. Sparda helped the Protectors against Argosax to seal him using the the Arcana relics

Matier was personally acquainted with the legendary knight

Matier: I'm not angry. Sparda also often confused my name. With the name of another woman

“Even before Sparda met Eva, he traveled the world for a long time. Surely during his wanderings, he came across Matier. But when exactly this happened - Dante did not know” (Before the Nightmare)

Dante: Granny, how many years, how many winters have passed?