#divine

The above is edited in from a reblog because some people have told me they struggled to find it. Since this post has begun to circulate some people have also made other discoveries-- Claude AI is in the code on github, so the app itself is not AI free in its programming, also Jack Dorsey, the guy funding this, is a piece of shit. he's elon's bestie and was an OG twitter founder. I am not especially online and was unaware of Dorsey (I'm not even positive that's how his name is spelled) because I think the biggest fuck you to billionares is ignoring them, mostly, but like. He sucks.

I've also seem some people assert that there is in fact permissions given to use AI in the settings of the website-- I can't check this because I refuse to make an account on the website, but if anyone reblogs this with a screencap I will add that then. I have also seen people talking about how content moderation is NOT in place, and people who have opened the website version have encountered videos intended to trigger people into self-harm, so that doesn't sound fantastic.

In addition, some people have made the very good point that before the collapse of Vine its most popular users were trying to organize and advocate for themselves, and resurrecting their content without their permission is disrespectful. I've also seen some comments assuring that Divine is removing the content from the original users if requested, but I still think it's worth remembering that Vine's collapse was preceded by a lot of users going "hey, you're making money in advertising off our labor, and like. fuck you maybe?" we should perhaps not be getting so rose-tinted about Vine just for nostalgia.

Here is a reblog containing an explanation about short form video content being better to train AI than long form video from someone who studied this academically

Further updates: here are Divine's responses to the accusations here

This does not mesh to me with the fact that there is AI built into the coding for the app, and them selling data to other parties was less of a concern for me than them using it themselves, but for what it is worth this is a fairly firm denial, and at least a bit of distance from Dorsey, who seems to be a big proponent of AI. He seems to just be a sponsor. I would need more information about this to be comfortable using it, but this is at least a marginally more optimistic update.