#discouse

Ethan Krusemark, Angel Heart (1987)

context: Sunny felt really hurt over how Phil introduced her to Talullah and some folks are interpreting is as Phil were cruel or that he's tryna be like more fucked up after purgetory

Disclaimer: Sunny is a kid and has every fuckin right to feel how she feels, and interpret things how she does, and it would be great if they talked and figured shit out. Disclaimer over.

Post: Ngl fellas, introducin someone with some banter about a topic you don't see em as insecure about is just kinda summit you Fuckin Do in north england. YUP EVEN WITH THE LITTLENS. My Mam and Dad did it with me nd my sister as a kid, my parents close friends would to it with us, my friends rents do it with them, my mates do with to me, I do it with them. It's like, kinda a thing that just happens,,, It's part of the culture. especially if the person you're introducing them too is nervous, cause its an ice breaker. Like "hey the person you're scared of is a person like you, look they can handle a bit of banter, its all fine we're friends here" type vibes!

Usually, you preface or end it with a compliment to show you're genuine feelings, and usually you don't do it with someone when it's your first meeting with em, but you'll take the piss out of someone you like to show that you like them yknow? Especially if you've like done other shit to establish yous appreciate that thing you're making fun of em about (like qPhil givin Sunny another pretty crown cause she likes gifts and pretty things and feeling like a princess).

You'd also go for something that you don't acutally feel negateiely about, obviously. Phil doesn't give a shit that she and tubbo steal, thats just a like thing that happens sometimes that you can roll your eyes at but whatever kids gonna nick shit /affectionate. It's not a fuckin insult coming from a place to shame or correct, it's intended to be banter, yknow?

Like, its a show that you like the person and know summit about the person and also believe they can handle a bit of banter at their expense. ESPECIALLY if you've seen em take the piss out of you, someone else, or themselves, cause then it's like "oh word you like to play with this dynamic, okay"

And like, does it suck when you misjudge? Absolutely. Does it suck when someone chooses the wrong topic and gets at summit you're genuinely insecure about? Yes. I've had convos with mine being like 'hey can you not use this topic when you're doin banter' and thats like, really fair to do. There are also like more casual ways to tell em to knock it off like, turning it back on them, or lampshadin it etc which are like, accepted way to tell someone to back down a bit, because it's just like. A thing you do here!

Like qPhil takes the piss out of everyone he loves, chayanne and talullah get it all the time, tubbo (the godparents of his kids) gets it SO much, so does fit, so does Etoiles, like its truly is like, just a fuckin, part of friendships.

TO REITERATE. SUNNY HAS EVERY FUCKIN RIGHT TO FEEL THE WAY SHE DOES! SHE IS A KID, SHE'S NOT FROM THE SAME CULTURAL BACKGROUN, SHE DOESN'T KNOW PHIL THAT WELL NOR PHIL AND TUBBOS RELATIONSHIP!!

Did qPhil put his foot in it? Yes. Do they need to have a natter and settle things? Yes.

(this is a lil old but worth replying to)

Yeah, no, Dream should absolutely no post any evidence whatsoever prior to a court case regardless of the validity of the accusations. He also probably doesn't have access to evidence that means anything yet (besides maybe his own social media logs, which are only half the story). Actually getting stuff that means something (ie, is not a screen recording), takes time, and it's not happening over a weekend. If he wants to take legal action, he needs to keep quiet, and he's likely had lawyers tell him as much. He's done the correct thing.

Amanda, if she's telling the truth, has done a lot of damage to any case she may've had by posting about it so much. Now, if she's telling the truth, I could absolutely understand acting irrationally in a stressful situation. However, I'm extremely disappointed in everyone on twitter who egged her on, encouraged her to keep posting stuff, and pushed her to make claims that will almost certainly come back to haunt her. Like, even putting legal cases aside, this girl doxxed herself on twitter to a dangerous degree, and nobody should've ever been encouraging that behavior.

I'm very hopeful she's now gotten in contact with a lawyer or at least the police, so she's gotten some advice on this situation. Regardless of whether her claims are true or false, I am happy she has gotten legal advice of some kind and is no longer engaging with bad advice from twitter.

I understand where he was going. I understand what he means in regards to misinformation.

But also like...that's how they express themselves and it doesn't make them worthy of dislike. The whole sport of quadrobics honestly doesn't need to come under fire.

I know adult therians who do quadrobics just like that. And all therians have the right to express themselves that way without being put down by older ones.

Most of the ones I've met do know what therianthropy entails and aren't playing. They've become content creators, of course they're doing lots of what works

Also he brought up xenogenders and neoprouns and then I kinda dropped off at that point because of how it was used.

But hey, every older generation starts disliking the younger, am I right?

But they don't have to. He's only 2 years older than me, and I have no problem accepting and supporting my younger therian friends. It's also insinuating that xenogenders and neopronouns are things adults can't use, and that's simply not true. I know 30 year olds who identify with xenogenders happily. I know cis people who use neos. It's not a kid only concept.

Also, that post allowed transphobes to make a home on his blog. He got an ask about how "all the people disagreeing are doggender," which is frankly a ridiculous argument in the therian community. You identify as a bird, idkw you have an issue with me tying my therianism to my gender. You can quietly disagree with whatever you want but the fact that folks felt comfy enough to be like "oh wow the icky weird trans people are being dramatic" and he Responded to them not shutting them down speaks volumes. If he really meant no harm, why is he so comfortable letting other people spout transphobic rhetoric?

Even if it was a "joke" having the entire group of people you're joking about tell you you're being an asshole and your response being to respond to the three (3) people in your inbox who say we're All overreacting shows you don't care about harm. It would've been so easy to say, "I didn't realize how mean the post came off, sorry," and delete it. But he didn't. He doubled down.