To last ask: The prime Danny clone has a huge potential to become a yandere. A more sick yandere than a common one because he has to play the role of a child to person he loves but knowing all those things between Vlad and the original Danny causes trauma in him and this sick love: a summary of strong desire of father's love and appreciation and the love obsession over older halfa who in the first year was the most careful and loving, and the warmest person you could ever meet. Vlad always has strong feelings, so, being careful it can be like-a-lover way.
Not gonna lie, anon, this is giving me some deliciously fucked up ideas
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So of course with Phantom being an intricate part of our daily life there tends to be questions that the town cannot answer. One major one being: Who was Phantom before he died?
What are your theories?
Phantom-our-hero:
What if the Fentons purposefully tortured a teen so that they would come back as a powerful ghost because the Fentons knew that their weapons weren't strong enough to fight ghosts. They made Phantom as their ultimate weapon. This would explain why he wears a hazmat suit, shares a 1st name with their son, and accidently calls them 'Mom' and 'Dad.'
Protect_the_kids:
That would explain why the daughter has thrown herself into her studies and school. If her parents were torturing a kid in their lab she would probably see school as her escape from home. If this really happened then she would probably try to stay at school as much as possible explaining her grades.
Fenton=Phantom:
Or Danny IS Phantom! They are basically the same physically except for simple eye and hair color change!
Show.Phantom.Love:
@Fenton=Phantom For the last time Phantom cannot be Fenton due to the clear fact that the Fenton son is ALIVE!!! And Phantom is FUCKING DEAD!!! For real, it ain't that complicated!
Protect_the_kids:
No no, he has a point about them looking similar though. What if they cloned the boy Danny and tortured the clone. It would explain his serious fear of ghosts and why he consistently avoids the topic of Phantom. When I see his fellow peers bring up the topic he becomes skirmish. Not to mention the fallen grades since the ghost portal starting up, awkward tics and his requests to "use the restroom" whenever a ghost appears at the school. He's consistently missing when Phantom is around because he runs away and hides in fear of what his parents have done. He's also found around town tired, making up excuses to not be home.
PhantomGreenEyes:
You mean to tell me the Fentons would morally clone their child and torture it to death just for a ghost weapon?
Phantom-our-hero:
@PhantomGreenEyes Uhhhh, yeah it's the Fentons
PhantomGreenEyes:
Good point
AmityAnomaly:
Well if the Fentons tortured him why would he still do their job and protect the town from ghosts and be a ghost hunter? Why not fight against the Fentons who hurt him?
Protect_the_kids:
Phantom has time and time again provided evidence of his sense of justice. With this he makes it a point to not cause harm to others or tries to minimize harm to others whenever possible. With this he probably would see harming the Fentons as unjust and "being just as bad as them" or "scooping down to their level." Removing the ghosts from our world through his thermos which holds or transports the ghost back to their world is not only protecting the humans from the ghosts, but protecting his fellow ghosts from the Fentons who hurt him.
AmityAnomaly:
Okay I am once again asking why can't we just kick the Fentons out of the town. Because really, this is not okay.
CityHall:
Would you like to start having to pay for electricity? They do power the whole town for free by converting the high consternation of ectoplasm in the air of the town to usable fuel.
● DannyMay-Day7: Lab Safety ●
PaPa Lab Safety Rule
1-Dress Properly before entering the Lab (Google and specialize jump suit)
2-Keep Lab clean and Handle Spilled Ecto Plasm /Chemical with Specialize Method.
3-Know where the safety tool is and label all the chemical (replace worn one if needed)
4-Don’t eat, drink, smell or tasted chemical
5-Don’t play mad scientist unless given permission by Papa
6-If accident occur call for help immediately and follow C-Core extraction procedure.
7- Don’t disturd other reforming clone.in the Pod (i’m looking at you Kel)
Of course you know I had to draw Velvet’s ghost form too. It took me a while to settle on a hair style so this is kind of a weird mix of Dani’s and Spectra’s since I didn’t want her to look too much like Vlad with full on horn shaped hair. As for the outfit, Vlad designed it to copy the Red Huntress, aka Valerie’s upgraded look out of spite once they officially became enemies after the events of D-Stablized. Like Velvet may want Dani/Ellie to forgive Vlad and vice versa, but if Valerie ever goes after her papa then the claws will come out, or fangs in this case. She will literally fight like a little vampire and use this special energy draining power from biting her ghostly enemies as a sort of nod to the original idea of Vlad being more of a vampire.
Velvet has quite the sweet tooth too and loves it when Vlad bakes sweets for them or cooks dinner himself. When that happens Velvet actually enjoys being papa’s little helper in the kitchen, floating around and phasing her hands through shelves to grab what they need. She’s a bit of a glutton too and always asks for seconds. It’s hard not to be when offered such rich delicacies lovingly made by your billionaire papa.
Note: So forever ago, @ectoblood and I had a conversation about a clone asking Danny to kill him and discussed, if a Danny clone would feel imperfect because he doesn’t share the same interests and dreams as his original? I actually expanded a little on those ideas from these two posts so have a ficlet.
Also on AO3 and Fanfiction.net
Daniel knows he was imperfect. It’s obvious; Father made that abundantly clear. The boy knows he was cloned from someone named Danny. And the older half ghost made it clear; he looked just like Danny and had all his powers. But that wasn’t enough. Father wants a better version of this Danny, someone who is a loving and obedient son but also with the personality and interests of the original. Perfect son, Father says, holding up this idealized version of the clone. He is to be the perfect son.
Father notices the difference and the man does not like it. He’s deeply dissatisfied because how dare his ‘perfect son’ not meet all of his expectations. His ideals t hat no one, not a clone or even the original Danny, could ever meet.
Father tries to force him in that direction. Daniel is a clone so of course, he likes space and video games and horror movies like his original. Daniel wants to be a good son, a perfect son. He really does. And he tries. He tries everything that Father offers him. And Daniel finds he likes some things that Danny does and doesn’t like other things. The clone also finds he has some of his own interests and dreams. He would rather watch birds in the garden than the stars. He’s rather draw than play video games. And horror movies...they scar him. He’d rather watch musicals.
Soon he’s always yelling at Daniel for some reason.
“Say yes sir, when you address me!”
“I… yes, Father. Sir.”
“I told you to clean the kitchen an hour ago. Why is it not done?!”
“I...I apologize, sir. I’ll...I’ll do that right now.”
“You call that an ecto energy attack? Pathetic!”
“Allow...allow me to try again. I will do better, please.”
He’s not obedient enough or powerful enough. He’s ungrateful, too quiet, too timid.
“Why do you never use the telescope I bought you?!”
“I...I have been busy with my studies. But...Tonight. Father, sir.”
Daniel never geeks out about space. The clone actually likes reading and birdwatching and hiking. He’s quieter and more thoughtful than his original.
All this burns in Vlad’s mind, his anger rising. How dare his perfect son behave like this? He was to be a perfect copy, in body and mind, yet perfectly loyal to his maker.
And for Daniel, all he wants is to make his Father happy. Maybe Father will be happy with him if he acts more like the person that Father wants him to be. So he tries to make himself like the things that Danny does and pretends to enjoy Danny’s interests. But he’s miserable, because space and horror movies don’t make him happy like reading in the garden and watching the birds does. He tries to be more outgoing and outspoken but that’s just not him. And Vlad can see that the clone is just putting on an act, trying to be more like Danny but failing (because he’s not Danny!).
So Vlad gets increasingly angry and dissatisfied because his ‘perfect’ son isn’t perfect. Vlad yells at him because he’s wrong, broken, a mistake, imperfect.
“Why should I even bother to keep a mistake like you around?”
“I… Father. Please. I’ll do better.”
“Be silent.”
“Father?”
“Never call me that again! Nothing as broken and imperfect as you deserves the privilege of calling me that. I am your Master, boy.”
“But-”
“I AM YOUR MASTER.”
“Yes… yes sir, Master.”
And Daniel believes him because Vlad is his Father, no, his Master and his Master has to be correct. If he was just more like Danny, then the man would love him. But he can’t be more like Danny. He’s not Danny and he’ll never be, no matter how hard he tries.
Vlad gave up on him, in his insanity thinking he just needs to try again. But he keeps the clone because he could be useful. Daniel isn’t Vlad’s son. He is tool. The man stops even trying to show him affection, increasingly having him run dangerous errands and be a lab rat for the older halfa. Vlad throws himself into making the next clone
“This one will work. It has too.”
“F- Master. Please, I’m hungry. Maybe I have some...some food.”
And the clone increasingly spirals into hopelessness and depression.
“Stop crying. You’re negatively affecting the data.”
“F...father. Please. St...stop.”
“I told you not to call me that.”
A cry of pain as Vlad digs the knife in deeper.
“Oh please. It barely even hurts.”
Weakened from hunger, thirst, and injury, Daniel escapes one day when Master is away. He...he is a failure. He...he is weak, he is horrid for begging Master to stop, for leaving now. But...he can’t...he can’t do this anymore. There is...there is only one way for the pain to end.
He arrives at a familiar building, one he’s seen through Master’s cameras. He rings the door bell and the front door opens to a familiar boy.
Danny refuses, of course. So Daniel tries to force his hand, attacking him. But Danny still refuses to hurt him, only defending himself so he can capture the other boy. Danny manages to get him in a thermos and soon after releases him in the ghost containment unit in the basement. He hates doing it but needs to talk to the other boy where the clone can’t hurt himself or anyone else. Danny manages to get some information from the near inconsolable boy.
“He keeps… he keeps hurting me.”
‘Who?”
“M...master.”
Eyes wide. “Vlad! Of course. Of course he cloned me again.”
Despite being stable and trying to be a good son, the clone’s still not what Vlad wants. He’s tried so hard to be what the older half-ghost wants but the man is still obsessed with having the ‘perfect’ son. And feeling like a failure and that his life is worthless, the clone wants to die and hopes that his original would have mercy enough to take him out of his misery.
After the speech, Danny is heartbroken watching the other boy weep. He feels helpless, not knowing what to do. He joins the other boy inside the unit, trying to comfort him. The clone still begs Danny to end him but the other halfa refuses.
“Why won’t you just do it?!”
“I will not hurt you. I don’t care how much you beg me or if you attack me again, I. will. not. hurt. you.”
“Please. I’m no one. I’m worthless. I can’t do this.”
“You’re not worthless. I promise. You’re not.”
“But I am. I AM.”
Danny grabs the other boy’s face. “Look at me. You are not worthless. You aren’t no one.”
“But-”
Danny cuts him off. “You’re family.” The clone’s mouth snaps. “I don’t care that we just met, or that you tried to hurt me. I made up my mind. You’re my family, no matter what. And I am going to find a way to help you. Vlad will never hurt you again.”
The other boy looks dumbstruck but Danny can tell he was listening. Just after Danny let go of his face, the clone fell forward, collapsing in Danny’s arms. He still wept but Danny thinks this clone did hear him. And he meant what he said. The boy he was hugging was family and Danny would always do everything in his power to help his family. Even if he wasn’t sure how to right now.
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Did I go crazy or is it real that the only time when halfas called each other by nicknames (Fruitloop or Little Badger) was in front of Danny's clones? If it's true, it means these nicknames are their secret? Like a thing that no one else knows, so, they can easily differ each other from doppelganger?
(Lmao, it has a point for Vlad, because "little badger" sounds too soft and gentle even for own son)
The first time the nicknames were used was in Bitter Reunions (S01E07), long before the appearance of the Danny clones, but it's an interesting thought.
Imagine if the prime Danny clone had made it. Imagine how Clone Danny would feel knowing his "father" created him only as a substitute for what he couldn't get, that he's an imitation, a copy, forever relegated to being second best. Even worse, he's the product of a ruthless act: the theft of Danny's DNA, which could be classified as a form of rape. As a clone, he isn't unique or original. No act of love brought him into being; he exists because of one man's envy and greed and selfishness. He had no childhood, no happy memories, no friends he grew up with, no true birthday. Oh, Vlad throws a small party every year on the anniversary of the "project completion", but it's an empty celebration. The real Danny is what his father always wanted. Only the real Danny gets called "little badger". Vlad spends more time talking and obsessing about the real Danny than he does his own "perfect half-ghost son".
I wouldn't count on the clone staying with Vlad for more than a few years. He can't compete with the real thing. Like Dani, he's better off running away and finding a family who can love him for who he is rather than who they wish he was.
