#cycle theory

Sub-theory, if Dess is the current knight, maybe the "final tragedy" is that a member of the trio has to become the knight for the next cycle. Admittedly, Ralsei's reaction would be a bit odd if that was part of the prophecy (if the Prophecy said a member of the trio has to become next Knight, Ralsei wouldn't be surprised by the Knight existing years ago), but maybe the prophecy is vague on that detail. For example, maybe the prophecy says "the Knight must take a hero's life away" and it sounds likes they have to let the Knight kill them, but it really means sacrificing the life they would've had to being the knight (the "Knight" referred to here isn't the person, it's the role). Maybe the Black Knife was the weapon of all the Knights throughout history. Nonzero chance Kris being knighted in Chapter 3 is foreshadowing them becoming the next knight.

Under this idea, the panels in Chapter 4 were only depicting the current iteration. I've suggested before that Carol could've went through something analogous to the Weird Route in her adolescence, but that could be a bit more literal under this idea if Carol was part of a previous iteration.

This can also double as a defense of the Fill-in-the-Blanks Theory, by the way

I have to say up front that this only really works if you accept the idea that the accompanying visuals in Chapter 4 were just depicting the current iteration of the prophecy and aren't actually part of the prophecy itself. If you don't accept that premise, I understand completely. Just know that part of this idea is that those visuals aren't part of the prophecy proper. The in-universe reasoning could be that Chapter 4 Dark Worlds were made by members of the current iteration (the current Knight and Susie), so their Dark Worlds would depict the prophecy with visuals of their iteration.

I want to restate: you don't have to agree with that reasoning. If you don't agree with it and dismiss everything else here because of that, I understand.

Anyways, let's start with the big one: Jockington.

Seems pretty explicit, right? Well, I have question for you: have you ever met someone named Peter? Or Mathew? Abraham? Noah? Joseph? Or just any name from the bible in general? In some cultures, Jesus and Moses are common names. There are multiple people named Mary even within the bible. If a biblical character was named Jockington, you'd see that name in real life (you might in a few decades anyways when Deltarune fans are old enough to have kids en masse). My point is that if the Prophecy mentions the name Jockington, wouldn't be realistic if tons of people were named Jockington? And how many of them have likely grown beards?

Moving on, there are others people say are specific to characters we know, but are they actually specific or do we think they are because we know what they're referring to?

In the case of "The Flower Man" we, the real life audience with more information than characters, got it wrong even with the visual partly because the wording is that vague. And again, if you dismiss the visuals (which, again, I understand if you don't want to do that), these lines are more vague than you think. All that's required for Lancer's panel is some pointy-headed person saying "Toothpaste Boy." "The Queen Chariot" is already twisting the definition of "Chariot" to apply the Queen we know, there's a over a dozen definitions of Screen (it's not even exclusively a noun), and that last one (which is unused, by the way, if you don't recognize it; if you want, you can actually dismiss it on those merits, but I understand if you don't) only requires an axe connected to a Tortoise's hammer. Maybe it was even the same one, Gerson could've been alive for the previous iteration. In fact, under Dess Knight, maybe Old Man is partially based on Dess's memories of Gerson in the previous iteration?

I don't see people bring this one up, but it's one I thought of, so for thoroughness I want to mention it. The Prophecy contains the solution to the piano puzzles of Chapter 4.

I personally think this can easily dismissed if previous iterations also had piano puzzles. In fact this doesn't require pianos at all, just some form of musical puzzles. Remember, Dess was guitar player, if these were guitar puzzles she could've solve it.

Next, some people say that the prophecy mentions the SOUL and therefore the Player, and we certainly weren't there for the previous iterations.

There are two ways to approach this. The first and more direct way is that this line is vague enough that it doesn't actually need to refer to anything like the player. It just says the cage has a human soul, that's it. It could refer to Kris's situation or a human under normal circumstance. And while that's definitely a fair counter argument, might I suggest something else?

The prophecy does mention the Cage getting possessed by something, but it doesn't need to refer to us specifically.

How does this sound: "The Cage shall act as the will of a being from another world." What if previous iterations had different kinds of otherworldly beings, and this time around it happened to be us? Different humans (or human-like beings, see the vessel) throughout history have acted as the Cage for otherworldly beings throughout history. Watch, the earliest Cage in history was actually possessed by Cthulhu or something. This idea admittedly works only under Cycle Theory specifically, but I do think it could work.

In fact, under the idea that Kris was part of previous iteration, I suspect they were possessed by someone else.

(yes, I am using this as an excuse to share an idea I had for Cycle Theory, sorry)

You've probably already seen evidence that Kris was possessed before the start of the game (e.g. the Bird Cage), but I usually dismissed that on the grounds of "Kris seemed to be working with the Knight (or someone who knows something about this whole mess) beforehand, so Kris could've prepared for this with their help." However, Chapter 5 does have one notable bit of evidence that makes me think it's more viable now.

Many have used the summoning Catti mentioned as potential proof of Summoning Theory, the idea that Kris (intentionally or otherwise) summoned the player with Catti. I'm not going to dismiss that idea, because I do think that's actually quite probable now, but I want to bring up one specific part: she said the summoning happened "way back then."

I want to restate this doesn't discount the idea that Kris unintentionally summoned the player specifically. It could something like "If you mess up the summoning, something bad will happen years from now," but what if the consequences didn't happen years later but very soon? What if this is how Kris became the Cage the first time around? Presumably, they were possessed by a different entity, unless those Chapter 0 theories end up being true (which I actually do doubt; I'm a "that was just a placeholder" believer). This time around, they ended up possessed by us because something went wrong with the Vessel creation, so we got put in Kris as the best runner-up.

Back on topic, there is one other specific thing that could be used as a counter to the idea that the Prophecy has happened before. I say "could be" because this is another thing I realized myself but haven't seen yet. It's a pretty big one for Cycle Theory specifically: this line.

If the Prophecy mentions Hyperlink Blocked, that could only be referring to Spamton. Maybe it could work if someone else said that, but this feels way more than that. Maybe Dess's iteration went into an internet Dark World, but my Cycle Theory would be hit pretty hard by this idea. I doubt even in Deltarune's universe the internet existed for centuries. I'll admit it, if the Prophecy does mention Hyperlink Blocked, then this would disprove my Cycle Theory.

But I think it's possible it doesn't.

Here's the thing: we don't see what part of the prophecy this refers to. Hear me out: this NPC is also speculating on the accompanying visuals, not just the words of the prophecy itself. Let me remind you that this chapter also has a bit where Darkner NPCs speculate on statues of each other without understanding the actual truth of the matter. What if this NPC saw a visual of Spamton saying "Hyperlink Blocked" and assumed it was part of prophecy.

I'll say it myself: this is a stretch. No other panel has wording in its accompanying visual. But as we don't what this actually refers to, it is possible this NPC isn't actually referring to the words of the prophecy.

I guess you could also argue they aren't even referring to anything related to the prophecy at all, though I'm not sure what else that would be.

Anyways, that's my best attempt to defend the idea that prophecy happened before (we'll call this Previous Prophecy Theory, of which Cycle Theory is a variant on). You may not be convinced, and I would understand. I just want to be clear that it is possible that the prophecy is not specific as some think.

Oh, also regarding the Prince Asriel theory, I want to bring some things up. I'm saying this separately from the above, since – while Asriel is the main idea I have for who the previous Prince of the Dark could've been – I am open to the idea that it could be someone else (maybe some random Darkner we don't know).

The only line of the prophecy regarding the Prince (that we have seen, at least) is this:

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