#currygom

alright back to kubera, timey wimey shenanigans and maruna growing a conscious.

so kuberas one of those series where spoilers dont change the experience so i knew yaksha was going to show up but ah im so excited yaksha and og airavata??? thank you currygom. oh yeah and we got more on brilith's soul's past i guess.

huh so the ancient human cycle of reincarnation is breaking down. ptsd is being inherited across lives. humans were suppose to regain memories of their past lives when their minds and bodies were fully matured but violent deaths are leading to them regaining their memories before their minds are ready to deal with the trauma and as a result instead trraging each life seperately like we saw with the humans maruna interacted with, the humans ran meets there is no seperation between one life and the next its bluring together and thr grudges are growing as people life out the past. I love it!

...thats ananta. damn currygom is going HARD this arc, all the big names are here. also i just love ananta, yaksha, and og airavata having a breakfast club. ananta is half way to having the dead anime mom hair but joking aside the two foofy braids are super cute. currygom.... why you keep killing off all the nice ones... oh no yaksha has bad regeneration doesnt he... ok i just spent a week with a literal toddler and yeah gandharva

ok i cant tell how much of this heart talk is metaphorical and how much is literal ie yaksha physical heart is effecting ran emotionally. now that i think about it why is hanuman in their female form in the current timeline. wait maruna couldnt interact with another alive in the current time but ran can? i love yaksha why are all my favorite characters doomed. LET ME PROTECT THE CUTE OLD MAN. he's even white haired, has a tail, and is fluffy! fluffy! ran is watee attribute like yaksha too. wait i just remembered samphati told maruna that ideally a natiska parent would mentor a 5th stage rakshasa since 5th stage vigor and what not works more like a natuska and isnt that what yaksha is doing for ran. oh so this is what they meant by suras natures are to destroy. natiskas take of their attribues and astika create

ah so ran's half phobia isn't just trauma from the cataclysm but being afraid of himself. yeah where'd the wind transcendendal come from, ran is water water water

oh wow that experiment was more important than i thought. everyone is there

ooh naver commenter pointed out how sura sometimes scheme names their kids and raltara's parents name might be taraka the natiska name kali took to make yuta

this cute old man is bad for my heart. also ananta is precious. maruna continues to underestimate people but i will say him mistaking to most powerful being to have ever exisged in the universe for a 4th stage rakshasa ia pretty funny.

yaksha is basically a catboy. that explains a lot actually.

im enjoying the characterization of sagara. to sagara power is everything. ananta just wants everyone to be happy, he's uncomfortable with exterminating the ancient humans but he'll do it for sagara. this isnt true to himself or what he wants but he'll be what those around him want him to be. oh wow so the name/role of ananta was designed to take on a portion of every sin ever in the universe. also callback to brilith's conversations on whether its better to have gods that are too weak to do anything or have the power but choose not to help. oh shit and by brahma asking his consent in the destruction of the ancient humans (and ensuring it via sagara) she ensured the sins of killing them would fall on to him.

oh and somethings up with tilda but we dont know what yet. shes going to be important

where is marunas coat? mmmm head hurts... so gods forget things so that they arent weighted down by desires and reach the top/enlightenment. but once they reach the top the dont have to keep forgetting? about doomed willarav(??) all the deaths are turning point in which the characters didin't choose compassion. this is also the outcome that kali averted. ok im with maruna ran is giving me bad vibes. oooooo the maruna ran raltara gandharva situation! the tension! the drama! i was so caught up if the eye of punishment was going to be used by maruna or shess that a couple years ago i didnt even consider the possibility of a new character.

we also see the payoffs of the weight of time and the other side as well ran and maruna have come to see things from the other side (sura and humans). as others have pointed out maruna has spent several millennia among humans and discarded the sura cultural mentalities taught to him (obey superiors, no compassion etc which we see directly in his confrontation with samphati but everywhere after this time adventure) and taken a mentality closer to that of the first ancient humans. if humans using silent magic is said to lessen their humanity and make them more like sura ruthless calculating and cold, the maruna has become more human. the opposite is true of ran having spent many years living as a rakshasa and living far beyond a human lifespn. literally he has become more in tune with his sura side coming to terms with his grand parent being hanuman, yaksha's heart within him, and his power which killed his mother and he attacked the two next most important people to him lutz and rana. silent magic was said to need a desire for power, a lack of compassion for ones enemies, and a willingness to give up everything for one's goals. and mentally his mindset has been shifting from that of a humans to the one we usually see in sura. remember when he was introduced ran was the nicest character in the cast after leez.

so god kubera put the konchez party in a transcendental to stop their minds from merging with the maruna and ran of the current chapter. but thats what made them too late to stop taraka dying and 4th stage yuta. unless they wouldn't have made it aahhhhhhhh my head hurts i infinite possibilities gah! time travel! anyways but im still not sure what god kubera wants to begin with. wait no the mental transcendental preserved the minds of their former selves. the merge did happen that's how the clothes got "restored". oh yeah i forgot former kubera drew the sword of re before giving it to leez.

one of the currygom afterwords or something mentioned it but there's many more characters recently that do not neatly fit into the established boxes. perhaps its because at the beginning and and ending of the universe reality is looser. we have confirmation that yaksha clan bunny girl petupan that ran met has a chaos attribute but other sura we have met has chaos-ish aspects to them like other bunnygirl sona who maybe could be petupan's daughter? curiosly hanuman has a weird left arm when ran met him but doesnt in the modern day. then there's taraka that maintained their minds and forms like samphati and makara. then we have ran whos a human rakshasa (hanuman wondering if they forgot about a child with yaksha is still funny)

3-195 the other side 13 is the last we see maruna with his red fluffy coat in a flashback with raltara. it isnt seen until maruna goes to the abandoned timeline or n23

its probably intentional on currygoms part that yaksha's source attribute is water and that the inheritor of his heart ran was born with 3 water attributes. the interesting part is when ran starts using wind transcendentals and hanuman's source attribute is wind. so its almost as if he were a rakshasa with light as a clan attribute and water and wind as heteditary attributes. what im not sure of is in the fight with maruna ran seems to use some sort of lightning based attack and i cant quite remember so he either mixed partial surification with divine magic, has a sky attribute???? or there's sky transcendentals that dont require an attribute?

When did vigor/ground up ancient human souls start talking to ran? End of season 2? Anyone remember why he started hearing voices? it started when hanuman blasted his head off while training with yaksha but they didn't start constantly talking to him until he equipped the eye of punishment to himself. oh and while he was with yaksha that was the exact same time when ancient human souls were being ground up. Proximity to the eye which in turn is connected to kali, the taraka clan, and the ancient human souls. Since it got attached to his heart. im trying to remember did kali take the ancient human souls and turn them into taraka or am i imagining that

I was thinking what the X in insight means, maybe it represents interference from a higher power like Brahma, Shiva, Visnu, or Kali. the same way how people are stopped from talking about certain topics, insight can also be blocked. however i reread the early chapters and agni seems horrified by the insight he saw with the X on asha and i dont think just primeval interference would warrant such a large reaction so it is possible he saw the block and the murders surrounding it.

the flowing shawl type thing characters like yuta and ananta have are common in hindu imagery for supernatural beings this spread through asia via buddhism so you see it in a lot of religious iconography. yeah it mostly means a character is supernatural, fairy, god, etc. i imagine in Kubera it means much the same

which were the times kali impersonated other? the one who approached mirha might be kali, i remember there was a similar discussion about who asha met or carte since it was also said that visnu was backing asha. i remember years back we decided kali impersonated akasha to give the eye of punishment to maruna since we later learn akasha should have been dead at that point. the evidence it was visnu for asha was that yuta and others recognize visnu's work in her and it explains why she can use hoti visnu. currygom and her many mysteries.

How are currygom and the translators counting ages? I was recently reminded that koreans can use a different system of counting ages than in the west. rereading the early chapters the manhwa does refer to leez as 16 eventhough the year is n15 so yeah i think we're going off of korean ages.

Slaps roof of webtoon this baby can hold so many types of horror in it

Currygom keeps calling this series a romance and we keep laughing at her funny jokes. "Romance" and "romantic" are words derived from the latin "rōmānicē" or "in a roman way". Currygom is respecting the history of the word and how the Roman Empire was on the brink of collapse dozens of times just like how relationships in Kubera are always falling apart.

"Laila was Brahma testing her. To see if she'd pick Claude or information. Because she chose "correctly", she got a prize which opens up some more possibilities. Leez's choice to "respect herself who knew nothing" is a genuinely bizzare decision and Kali dominated that conversation. She didn't get an easy win sure (Leez taking another name), but that's one of those things you have to try even if you know it probably won't work. Just to see if the other side is stupid. Kali enjoys unpredictability and the future Leez chose should still end with Kali winning, only she'll suffer greatly before that end. We don't know what Kali's real goal was there in any case. For Mirha and Visnu, Mirha showed intelligence and noticed the manipulation but that too was expected. Visnu came to her after Asha, predicted her going to the water chanel instead (according to Kubera) and got what he wanted in the end (a pawn in the form of Asha). Mirha was just setup for that. The way that attempted manipulation influenced her was also valuable in it's own way. That guilt would shape her later decisions.You straight up can't win against Visnu when he's willing to toss away tens of billions of years of the Manasa timeline just to perfectly shape Ananta into the correct kind of tool." (Ravate)

The primievals really are playing on such a massive scale. I'm reminded when currygom was talking about how rare it is to play cards against them and how agni being able to win 1/10 times is amazingly good.

I think maruna will die he's grown too much as a person. Currygom never lets the good ones live.

never forget tilda has the most guts out of the human cast

I change favorite characters like every year and this year in addition to yaksha i think its ananta i need to reread that entire part again.

That sequence with ran and ananta's shed skin about choosing the lives if his family or 109 strangers. But then theres a scene with rana that was seen earlier and im confused. Initially i though the rana ran scene was the future/present while the last like 100 chapters have been flash back but then that talk about ran living in the real universe got me confused. Is that actually from that doomed n23. Raltara is there?

We already knew that kubera crossed over from the previous universe but now kalavinka and marut imply he's the cheerleader for the destruction of the universe and losers of the previous universe. He seems to gave mixed feelings about his situation. I remember there were rumors jibril summoned agni but it was kibera she summoned? I thought you needed triple attributes how did firefirefire jibril do it. Or could it be that as a cheerleader he has a separate name and jibeil summoned that name. Did leez time travel again to summon kubera? That makes 3? 4? 5? Times she's saved her own life and drastically altered the course of history. Ah eline told her of a different summoning method.

Oh yeah and we got confirmation raltara's mom was taraka the nastika name kali took so i guess raltara and yuta are full siblings. That is mind its not surprising raltara can have a tarakafied form. Not sure what it has to do with marut.

wait. Ran's wish on the eye of punishment might have led maryna to carry the sins assigned to rao and develope. Also dumbass ran here equips it onto himself.

Wait the pink text bubbles were the voices of vigor/ancient humans why is akasha also speaking in that color?

oh currygom we all know you're a homophobe. How can a series be so gay yet so painfully straight. Gee huh a spcies that can change sex at will and many do so frequently yet in romantic relationships its always one man and woman. Currygom bending over backwards to make things straight. Or all the nastika changing sexes to avoid being attracted to someone because of course men would be attracted to women. Or petupan who who prefers female form but lives it male form for the power and of course hanuman then has to change to female form to be in a relationship with petupan

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Those who feel attraction to the opposite sex 

Those who are attracted to females no matter their own sex

Those who feel sexual attraction to females when they are male, but feel no attraction when they are female

Those who feel attraction no matter the sex of both parties

Those who feel sexual attraction to males when they are female, but feel no attraction when they are a male

Those who are attracted to males no matter their own sex

Those who do not feel sexual attraction no matter the sex of both parties (Doesn't mean they don't feel any at all).

Out of all the nastikas, the proportion of #1 is the most abundant, and it goes down in order, with #7 being the least common."

So women are super desirable is this universe. What. Also as noted by others to currygom it is inconceivable that some people would only be attracted to those of the same gender/sex. "I haven't even thought that there could be instances like that" currygom really be like gay people arent real, but i already knew she was a conservative. At least ace people exist in this universe.

I was mad about yaksha dying before but now im like quadruple mad. In the words of two redditors:

"One of [Yaksha, Shuri, Jamba] had to die. Jamba was easiest because it would make Yaksha peaceful and want to give his body away like she did, which leads to Ran getting the heart."

"They straight up told Yaksha that "remember that guy who you're living to meet? He's not gonna exist if you repair your heart, so just die to Asura". "

And about the prievals making ananta the time axis: "they gave him the view of a "player" and didn't let him make decisions. Everything was scripted and chosen for him, only letting him have the delusion of free choice and had him bear the burden. Exactly what Ran accused The will-to-live skin of. No wonder he chose to blow up."

Yeh i'd try and destroy the universe too. They first kill his most important person because its easiest of the 3 then give him a reason to live just long enough so they can kill him with that same reason and have his bones and heart be useful in n23. Yaksha lived and died so ran could get a powerup so that visnu and brahma could have a more powerful card to play in n23. And all the places yaksha's bones were plot relevent like khroha's death. it was also probably to get yaksha out of the way. Yaksha deserved better… Cute little catboy grandpa...

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