#crescent pack

I will never call Hayley queen. Because she is not. She's the Alpha of the Crescents.

Werewolves already have a hierarchy: alphas, omegas, betas etc. TVDU doesn't really explore the werewolves much so we don't see this in detail but we see hints of it throughout. Adding royalty to the packs destroys this pre-established hierarchy.

When Jackson first introduces this idea of royalty he says their families are "like" royalty and everyone just ran with it. In episode one he was explaining that their families are from the first pack, Hayley's being the one that all werewolves derive from.

But that doesn't give her a preordained right to rule. We see this with how she's treated in Seasons 1 and 2 by her pack. Often disregarded and even pushed out of pack politics. This is especially true after she turned into a hybrid.

This is even true with Jackson. He doesn't state he was the alpha because he was destined, rather that he stepped up during the curse. This is how alphas were established in TVDU. The ones who can either fight to the top or everyone follows because of their leadership.

This is also why Hayley should be the sole alpha of the pack. She comes to New Orleans, breaks their curse, fights for their rights with the other factions, actually works to negotiate and create peace, fights for the pack when the others have given up, etc. She was the only member of the Crescents that truly led them and put them first. She didn't desire to be alpha, rather she desired to protect her family.

To me, the show kept referring to her as queen so as to not take away Jackson's status. We see the pack treat her as a queen consort more than anything. Jackson is never once called king but is always referred to as the alpha. The pack may bow to her but they don't follow her. This is abundantly clear after Jackson dies and we hardly ever see the pack again. While, yes, this could be because Hayley distanced herself and even left New Orleans, however, they were willing to follow Jackson and Hayley out of the city. If she was truly a monarch of the pack, they would have followed and helped protect Hope as she fled the Strix by herself. Instead, they stayed behind and, assumedly, found a new alpha.

The Crescents have always struggled with loyalty and the fact that there were supposedly two packs in New Orleans but never really delved into a pack outside of the Crescents always confused me. I wish the show would have gone into their storylines more but at the same time, I don't think they would have done Hayley justice as an alpha.

I really hate the way people talk to Hope about her family.

She's literally an orphan and obviously her extended family doesn't really talk to her [which I find is bullshit bc Julie is just writing the show as if Rebekah, Marcel, Kol, Davina, Freya, Keelin, Vincent, and any of the Crescents would just allow her to alone].

So I don't understand how anyone could use her family against her like a weapon, its bullshit.

Wolf Queen

I keep seeing posts saying that Hope needs to take her rightful place as Queen of the New Orleans Crescent Pack, I think she already has.

In Legacies 01×09, Hope says "Don't make me take you down, I have no desire to be Alpha here" - "I have no desire to be alpha here"

I think Hope has taken over the Crescent Pack but is ruling them from afar - keeping her distance as to not get emotionally attached to anyone whose within the pack.

She might not be ordering them to help her with the monsters or whatever because she's ordered them to work with the vampires and witches of New Orleans - Marcel/Rebekah & Vincent/Freya.

She might have ordered the Crescent Pack to remain in New Orleans and protect to peace that Hayley created.

In Legacies, Landon says that the longer Raf is in wolf form the less human he becomes.

Since when the fuck is that an issue?

Given that the Crescent Pack was still very much human after spending everyday for years (minus a few days of full moon) in their wolf forms.

Which original alpha and queen are referring to because from what I can see, Daniel and Rowan Labonair have also returned from the dead. Wonder how that'll all work out. What do we think? Will mother and father bow to daughter and son-in-law? Or will Jackson and Hayley hand the pack over to the OG's? Not that there is much of a pack but it certainly would be hard for a vampire to run a pack of wolves. Maybe it's time to pass the torch to another family or just leave the pack as it is- nonexistent.