#comic samples

After reading TF Skybound 24, I cannot help but making this footage.

Their storyarcs are very different, even many traits of their personalites, but the inner context is very much the same.

"Star's true self."

In IDW, it was Windblade who helpes him to realize of that.

HAWKEYE - Kate Bishop Kicking Ass 

This page belongs to VOID RIVALS story arc. Here, HotRod is seeking for Jeftire after learning certain pair found him in extasis mode, reactivated him after millenia, and Jetfire realized he had been missing for so long and had to find "Something".

In fact, HotRod and Springer keep wondering about Jetfire's fate all the time.

BUT previously, in the Starscream's flashback, when he was Ulchtar, we see this...

Jetfire had already made up his mind to seek for certain thing that Ulchtar showed him. He definitively wasn't going to take part of the fights.

Ironically, HotRod, Springer and Optimus knew what was Jetfire's mission. And they're Autobots.

And later, we have this...

Ulchtar suggest to Jetifre to re-calculate the stellar maps that they both had done.

SO... it means that...

-Ulchtar and Jetifre both were scientist. They both wanted to find a way to save Cybertron thanks to certain "old cybertronian legend".

-Jetifre left for who-knows-how-long seeking for it... Alone. (Yeah, right, a wonderful idea).

-Optimus, HotRod, Springer (and perhaps more Autobots) knew about this. They know about Jetfire's quest.

-Ulchtar, who eventually will become Starscream, knows about those maps, too! He made the calculations!

So, the conclussion is Jetfire, in spite of his words, was working along with the Autbots since the very begining. And it also means Ulchtar/Starscream also could know this.

(Poor Genvo is the third wheel in all this, yeah. And he suffers the 'dead friend syndrome' and knows nothing, just like Jon Snow).

So, if those clues are correct, this also means Optimus might know about Ulchtar before he become Starscream?

Because it’s a totally fan-made concept, even if the canon provides proofs about it.

In TF universes, the fandom has the concept of “Seekers Trine” as some kind of brotherhood among the Seeker type TF. Basically a group of three seekers with a leader that tends to hang up together in battles and other activities.

In the original G1 TF series we have several samples about it.

The most notorious is the Elite Trine,  of course…

Also, we have the Coneheads Trine, which seems to get along with each other in nicer terms.

The RainMakers….

And other trine groups without a clear name…

So yeah, it seems to be canon. But even if in certain TF media they address each other as “brother”, there is not a clear explanation about what is a Trine.

So perhaps we need a little of  fandom history on how this concept was born, which I witnessed.

The concept was born just after G1 Cartoon (IDW comics weren’t a real thing yet, unlike nowadays) - At first, the most popular concept was “Wing Mate”, that means, Seekers that fly together in a similar fashion to Trines. However, at a certain point, some fans started to wonder about the nature of Seekers, and they also wondered if Seekers would be able to merge together like Aerialbots do and form a gestalt.

The Seekers Gestalt could be a cool idea, but it didn’t seem plausible. The Dcons jet seemed to be too individualistic to be able to merge like that. They almost behave like Prey birds and fly all alone, and not a flock of birds like starlings, for example… until the fact was pointed out that Seekers often fly and do other activities in groups of three, and those teams seemed to have a leader.

So, the final conclusion was Seekers weren’t able to become gestalts, but they were able to create some kind of similar bounding to other two seekers and become a Trine. The G1 Cartoon had plenty of those cases! And TF happen to be an alien species, so the nature of their relationships and bondings not always follow the same patterns than in humans.

And that’s how the concept was born. The idea was widely spreaded through the fandom thanks to fanart, and mainly, fanfics, even if in the canon those groups not always hang up nicely.

Hece, since it’s a fanmade concept, the whole issue is still open to interpretation.

In most cases, Trines seem to be somewhat a brotherhood, nothing like a romantic relationship, but something closer to a family relationship. (Of course, there are fans that want their relationship to be something else, but the common belief is not that).

In G1 cartoon, Dcons were Military Warframed Cybertronians; certain types that were built and activated with military purposes by default  (another question is how those military types become the bad guys, but that’s another story) in some short of massive production. It would explain why certain body types are so common. And, spark brothers like Sunstraker and Sidesway weren’t an usual thing.

The concept of Protoform and individual bodies weren’t introduced till the BW series, though. They belong to the same continuity at very least, so we can asume G1 bodies had a protoform, too; and it means the spark is truly linked into those manofactures bodies in some degree.

Later, in IDW comics, the concept of Cold Constructed bodies was introduced. Basically a spark placed in a manufactured body, and not a spark with its own protoform and natural body. Something similar happened in Alignated continuity.

This, literally, makes CC unable to have brothers or sisters, because their activation is created in a mass production system. So, Seekers aren’t… real seekers, because their body frames are unnatural, but artificial. 

As a result, how can a “drone” body own a real nature?

That’s why the concept of “Trine” doesn’t work in IDW continuity. Literally, a spark can change its body frame for another totally different, and the result is something different from a Seeker, which in the end, is a type of military flyer type, but a military rank. Under this light, Seekers Trines happen to be… fake.

In later years, the most common belief in fandom is that Seekers are CC bots that develop this kind of bonding. But these CC aren’t exactly like in IDW, but something closer to G1 cartoon, where the spark is placed in a manufactured body that means to be hosted by that spark, so the conflict between spark VS body is meaningless.

That helps to create the concept of Trine as something real.

But the problem remains…

Certain theories say Seekers Trine are created at the time of their activation. Seekers are activated in triplets, so that’s how a Trine is created.

Other theories say Seekers are alone, till they find other seekers to hang with and eventually the Trine is born. Since they have this kind of bonding, they hardly need to be mated with other people, outside of the trine, of course.

And finally it’s the “Lovers” theory. But that's a certain part of the fandom trying to sexualize everything.

Ok, we got some good G1 cartoon vives with these guys: Trannis and Straxus, who seems he brough up his work tool. And also we have the Big Bad Guy, Megatronus, AKA The Fallen in many continuities. I didn't expect this guy around here since he's somewhat Alignated Continuity stuff.

In the classic "Five Faces of Darkness" episodies from G1, the Quints tell Galvatron DCons had their own Matrix... which eventualy happened to be false, and a way to manipulate the Dcons into their own schemes.

Since the G1 cartoon said Quints were the creators of Civilian TF and Warframe TF alike, who eventually would become Autobots and Decepticons alike, it seemed natural both types joined their forces against the Quintessons.

However, the old cartoon never said clearly it happened!

We just assumed the Warframed did so, and eventually the Cybertronians as a whole created their own culture and civilitation. Till shit happened.

Those "old past Dcons leaders" were the ones that created the wars.

Of course, G1 cartoon is strongly biased, but I cannot help but thinking there was something else. Now, Skybound continuity just brings back this topic.

And it seems the Quints were behind the WarFrame/Decepticons' actions, being those their tools.

But why?

I mean. Beyond the DarkMatrix-Matrix of Domination, the Dcons have ZERO reasons to obey the Quints.