(Part 1) Thanks for explaining the issue with fetishization and transphobia. I saw the post earlier and what you added made a lot of sense. I have a follow up question though - You explained that people are attracted to what red heads or trans people have in common. So, what if someone prefers dating someone trans because of nothing sexual or wanting to know their history/backstory, but because they see how society mistreats them and wants to treat them right?
(Part 2) I think thatâs similar to wanting to date someone thatâs in the process of coming out of the closet - you want to help them through that process. Do you think seeking out trans people for that reason is fetishization or even transphobia? What about wanting to become friends and not for dating? Then is it just about wanting to be a safe space for them? (Assuming itâs someone you would otherwise be friends with/want to date, not just any trans person.)
Part 3) Iâm a cis bisexual girl. Sometimes I feel more attracted to women then men because of the sense of community - same with trans people, the sense that weâre in the same LGBT+ community. So itâs not them being trans that is attractive exactly, itâs that theyâre part of a community that I identify with. And I know what struggles they possibly went through/are going through so I feel like Iâm in better place than others might to be there for them. Thoughts? Iâm just trying to learn more :)Â
Obviously, again, a big disclaimer goes here that Iâm cis and not an expert on this. So, Iâll do my best to talk about what I *think* is the right way of approaching this, but if any trans people disagree with me, you should listen to them!
I can see where youâre coming from, but I donât think itâs a good basis for a relationship. I do think that if youâre gonna date a trans person, you should be of the mindset that you want to support them in dealing with all the shit they face for being trans: thatâs pretty basic, you shouldnât date anyone if you donât plan to support them through hard things, especially when those hard things are about marginalisation.
But deciding to date someone just in order to support them? Thatâs not an equal relationship. It sets up the possibility of a huge power imbalance, where youâre painted as the Protector and theyâre dependent on you. But more importantly, itâs kind of insulting! You want people to date you because they like you, they enjoy being with you, they find you interesting or exciting or whatever; not because they want to save you.
Now, I donât think you were trying to suggest that youâd date someone you were otherwise completely uninterested in, just to help them survive transphobia. But even if youâre restricting your potential dating pool to âpeople I like + people I can support with transphobiaâ, thatâs still kind of reductive. Youâre predetermining that you, as their partner, will have a role in their life that they havenât agreed to. Youâre also forgetting that different people experience transphobia differently, and the kind of support youâre able and willing to give may not always be needed or wanted.
I also wonder what you (hypothetical you) would be getting out of this. Itâs absolutely fulfilling to help people, especially people you care about! But romantic relationships are also about a more selfish kind of fulfilment, youâre looking for things the other person can bring to your life. âI can help themâ isnât something theyâre bringing to your life; so itâs worth asking what *does* fill that gap.
I do think thereâs a lot of value in maintaining a friendship with someone in order to support them, with any kind of coming out or dealing with discrimination. Friendships can be very focused around one kind of interaction/way of relating without that being a problem, and thereâs a long history of older queers/LGBT folks mentoring younger ones. Of course, usually that kind of mentoring happens with someone who shares your specific marginalised characteristic: but if a cis person and a trans person have that kind of a friendship, which specifically addresses transphobia, and both people are happy and healthy in that friendship, then Iâm not gonna tell anyone off!
I also definitely think itâs worth explicitly aiming to be a safe person to socialise with for trans people. This is especially true in group settings, where we need to be the ones knocking misgendering, transphobic jokes, casual cissexism etc. on the head, and also making sure we donât participate in any of that, and that we apologise and correct ourselves if we do, even if weâre not aware of anyone in the group being trans. Thereâs probably a good chance that that kind of successful allyship will lead to friendships, which is fabulous - although that said, you canât force a friendship, and sometimes itâs just as important to be a good ally to someone with whom you canât actually hold a comfortable conversation without lapsing into awkward silences.
If you know that someone is lonely, or being excluded, (and is also trans), then that would also be a good reason to actively reach out and try to become friends (as long as you can recognise and accept a soft no).
But seeking to become friends with random trans people, without having any particular reason to believe that they are short on supportive friends, just because theyâre trans so youâve assumed they need support, is getting back on the dodgy side. Much like what I said above about romantic relationships, if you do this youâre making assumptions about their life on the basis of them being trans, and youâre also trying to slot yourself into a role in their life that they might not want you in, that might already be more than adqeuately filled, or that they might not want or need anyone in.
I do want to reiterate that all this is about patterns, about actively seeking relationships (platonic or otherwise) with trans people in general. If there is a specific person in your life, who you care about, and the two of you have agreed that these risks and dangers donât apply, thatâs completely different.
The community thing, on the other hand, I totally understand. I also am much more interested in women than men, and much more interested in queer/LGBT people than in Straight* people: by that token Iâll probably always be more interested in dating trans women (and trans men if I meet one I really like) than cis, straight guys. I think thatâs 100% fine.
The difference, I think, between seeking people who share a community with you, and seeking people who you can support through discrimination because of their community membership, is that the former is equal - the common experiences, solidarity and understanding flow both ways - whereas being someoneâs white knight is very one way.
Just to reiterate: I am extremely open to criticism and disagreement from anyone whoâs trans. If you donât want your name on your criticism, send it to me on anon, and I will post it, so long as itâs respectful of trans people.
*Straight with a capital S, as in the social position, not just the orientation.