And another thing! (Gears up to give opinion nobody asked for)
I think the nature of fandom spaces generally being geared towards a younger audience, or just containing a younger audience, is not a bad thing, even when the media is more mature. However ☝️🤓
I DO think that this fact means a lot of fandoms never discuss the serious aspects of the show, leading to a very repetitive and stale interpretation of the main characters, specifically disregarding their trauma and main personality traits in favor of 'silly' headcanons.
Specificalllyyyyy I feel like the way people talk about Jonathan Sims and Arthur Lester is very much "aww silly pathetic wet cat man" when... I mean... they're not really??
Like, Jon was groomed from age eight to serve an entity. He was orphaned. And abused. He watched a giant spider eat a kid?? A spider that HE summoned inadvertently and has blamed himself for for years??
And then when he seemingly finally got his life together and got in an academic position, no, surprise, actually it's evil. The boss is a murderer. The boss is a body-swapping eldritch horror. Jon was going to be SKINNED ALIVE. I feel like we all gloss over this?? Jon SAW and FELT the experience of EVERYONE IN THE WORLD, INCLUDING CHILDREN being simultaneously tortured and killed with their worst imaginable horrors. Which HE caused. And that's like... still not even the tip of the iceberg??
And Arthur- ARTHUR LESTER WHEN I GET YOU. He woke up with no memory, in a pool of blood, with his eyesight gone and his closest friend that he views as a brother dead. And then he's told that HE killed him. And then there's a DEMONIC ELDRITCH GOD in his head, being very antagonistic and evil!!
He's thrown into a prison pit. He's starved and forced to resort to cannibalism MULTIPLE TIMES. The guy in his head murdered him and he was unknowingly revived by ANOTHER evil guy!?? He has to cut off his own finger! Actually, so did Jon! And Jon had to get two ribs ripped out!!
Also Arthur is constantly threatened by Kayne, who CAN and WILL bring alternate versions of his infant daughter to him and force him to watch her being tortured and killed. AFTER he accidentally let her drown!! By the way, his parents are dead. And they were also cultists!! And it's also THEIR FAULT that a DEMON WOMAN is ruining his life and got her father obsessed with him. Every version of him was killed, tortured, mutilated, and their BODIES WERE USED. TO MAKE WINGS. FOR KAYNE.
Is. Is this thing on. Can anyone hear me I'm going crazy
"Aw my silly blorbo" THAT'S A MIDDLE AGED MAN AND HE'S DIED LIKE TWENTY TIMES