Egrettail VS Beeface
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Egrettail VS Beeface
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Beeface VS Cootstorm
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Cootstorm
Honestly- as someone who has had two grandparents with dementia- something that came up with both of them was the specific request for some of their kids to not care for them. People who didn’t get along with the rest of the family, who were combative and generally made things worse. They still loved them- but it just wasn’t a great idea to put that sort of responsibility and emotional burden onto them. Quite frankly, I think Beenose and Plumstripe choosing to leave is just as responsible as them deciding to stay would’ve been. They tend to cause strife more often than not- and they need time to figure themselves out before they could be a good caretaker. It’s a rough choice either way, and there isn’t really a right answer, but I don’t think it was a bad choice for them. It was reasonable either way
These are both very good perspectives on the situation, and bring up good points about how difficult these decisions can be. I think a lot of the PATFW story revolved around trying to find the balance between "duty to your community" and "taking care of your own needs".
Tumblr deleted this ask FOUR TIMES and then gave me hell for trying to send it but we stay silly <3 Anyway, I think there's a wonderful irony in Plumstripe taking on a she-cat as a mate. One major angle of her and Beeface's conflict was around their apprentices and how those apprentices reflected on them by how well they upheld Barrenclan's legacy. Beeface lorded Daffodilcloud's willingness to take on a mate over Plumstripe, straight up boasting about how Daffodil was definitely totally going to get with Cormorantleaf to her sister (no matter how much the pressure to preform was impacting Daff.) Asphodelshine ended up projecting her reluctance and strife around having kits onto Pinewing, which strained their relationship further than it already had been (creating a similar combative relationship the sisters themselves had.) So much pain the Barrenclan apprentices went through was because of their identities and wants conflicting with the wider Barrenclan's culture and the expectations put upon them, and Plumstripe and Beeface were all too willing to comply with those expectations. Because expectations means there can be winners and there can be losers, and if training under Dustfeather and Doestep taught them anything, it's that it's better to win than to face punishment, social or otherwise! Like sheesh, the kind of environment that the sisters trained under implied by the comic would breed toxic insecurity and competitiveness in anyone, I think. It's also far easier to direct that kind of frustration at your peers than it is your superiors. Being literally pitted against each other probably didn't help! If things had played out differently, I think Beeface at the time would have made a stink about Cormorantleaf and Pinewing's relationship. Because that would mean HER apprentice wouldn't be able to gain the favor of the clan by getting with Corm, thus "winning" this particular "contest" of who's apprentice gets to have kits with the new tom. I think Plumstripe would have tried to talk Asphodelshine out of her feelings, because Asphodelshine not taking on a mate would make HER look bad, and she can't afford that.
And then Plumstripe gets with a she-cat. Not that Barrenclan was against same-sex relationships, of course, but with the kind of expectations Barrenclan put on cats, I don't think Plumstripe would've even dreamed of having a relationship like this before. I feel like if circumstances had been more favorable for Barrenclan, she would have picked the "best" mate, whatever that means. She would have tried to hit the milestone of having kits as fast as possible, just to feel superior (secure) to Beeface. This is to say she would have whether or not she wanted kits in the first place, and she might not have judging by how her epilogue ends with Eberhart (No mention of kits! Maybe it's something she's never really cared about. I dunno, that's just pure speculation on my part.) And that's the irony to me! Asphodelshine was tormented by this expectation to have kits, to have a certain kind of relationship, a mate, to uphold Barrenclan's legacy, pushed on her by Plumstripe and her stupid rivalry with Beeface. And it's Plumstripe who also being quietly choked by the expectations of Barrenclan. It's Plumstripe, who would have never approved of anything but the "best" relationship for her apprentice, who suddenly finds herself in (by the standards of her culture) a non-traditional romance. A relationship that would have never been 100% approved of by the cultural expectations she herself upheld. Eberhart coming into Plumstripe's life is kind of revolutionary for her, I think. Eberhart is a freedom that she didn't know she was being deprived of too. Suddenly, she's feeling even some of the feelings Asphodelshine felt back then, if not for the same reasons. Rightness. Security. Near serenity if you'll let me be poetic. I think it's really important that it was Plumstripe who gets a relationship with Eberhart in particular (and it makes sense that her more stoic but secretly inconfident personality jives better with Eberhart's, compared to Beeface's more brazen one!)
Similarly, I think it's important that Beeface is the one that doesn't get a mate. She was, as mentioned, the one who had been "winning" when it came to this particular battle before everything happened. The ball was in her court, and she finally, finally chose to not fire back. I dunno, I think it just goes to show how toxic the culture in Barrenclan really was, and how even the perpetrators of it were suffering under it. The sisters are, of course, not owed forgiveness, but I dunno. It's really nice to me that they get a happy ending. I think about that one drawing you did on the first page of the epilogue, showing Dustfeather, Plumstripe, Beeface, Daffodilcloud, and Asphodelshine all in a vertical chain, one's suffering trickling down to the other. I think it just kinda perfectly encapsulates this whole situation. The cycle of abuse sucks for everyone in it, folks! It's nice to be able to see people growing past it, even if they were in the middle of the cycle rather than the beginning. Even after you fuck up and hurt someone irrecoverably, you still have to live the rest of your life. Realistically, all you can do is just move on. To live
Not related to anything above, but I also just really loved Epilogue #4, haha. I feel like I might as well talk about it while I'm here! And gosh, the Kittens and their conflicts mean so much to me??? Meadow's chronic pain (I don't have it myself but people I'm close to do) and overall theme of escapism from a life that doesn't make you happy even if it's not strictly bad!! Egret's story of guilt and learning to accept that it's okay to ease your own burdens!! Honey's optimism initially framed as naive being instead a desperate, hopeful coping mechanism, to try to live to survive!! And Sky's overwhelmingly, breathtakingly joyful self-discovery all conveyed in like three paragraphs!!! AUGH!!! I feel all of these things so much (including being transmasc) and it's just really meaningful to me to see it in a story like this. I feel like I've only known the Kittens for a day but if anything were to happen them I'd turn into bloods haha. I love them so so so
OH and I just want to say. I'm so extremely happy you kept Egret as visibly heavyset??? On top of everything else that Also means a whole lot to me and I'm so so happy to see it haha. Good fat character representation is still really rare so when I see it just makes my whole day. Everything about Epilogue #4 is just pure condensed joy for me and I just had had had to express it, haha
Wow, props to you for not giving up on this absolute essay after Tumblr axed it more than once. This is all very well-written and very much in line with what I intended for Beeface and Plumstripe's ending, I can't even add that much! Thanks so much for sending it in.
I'm also glad you liked Epilogue 4, I really enjoyed writing it!
After reading the recent epilogue with Plumestripe and Beeface, it made me why they ended up like that. I always wondered how they grew to be so toxic when their parents seems so loving and kind. I remember their being a mention they hated each others due to their mentors having then compete with each other and fueling their rivalry so they would become better. I didn’t think it was this extreme. Training them until their paws bleed or refusing to feed them when they didn’t bring food! It horrible. This made me realize how much of an effect mentors have on their apprentices.
Im glad they left barren clan and forged their own path, especially Plumestripe. I doubt she ever would have found love had they stayed there.
Mentor and apprentice relationships are very rarely explored in the Warriors canon, so it was something I really wanted to focus on in PATFW, with the three main mentors (Plumstripe, Beeface, and Cootstorm, and comparing Redstar as the effect of a good mentor). An apprentice spends more time with their mentor than their own family when they're training, so how the mentor behaves and what they teach you would have an enormous effect on a young cat. Beeface and Plumstripe taught what they knew.

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so do bee & plum ever see blacknose again?? :(
Of course, they'd make journeys home sometime. The city they live in is not very far away from the barn. I'm sure Eberhart would get along fantastically with everyone, I can see her being flustered by thinking Egrettail is really cool.
No, it's a good point! There is the fact that Blacknose is surrounded by many willing cats who can care for her (Redstar, Pinewing, Slugpelt, Daffodilcloud, the four now-adult kittens, Cormorantleaf), along with her primary caretaker Egrettail. But there is a very real question of balancing your own life with the responsibility you feel to your parents in their decline.
I don't think it's too far outside of Plumstripe and Beeface's characters to prioritize themselves over trying to care for Blacknose. And Plumstripe is especially trying to pay attention to Daffodilcloud's wishes - "I never want to see you again and I don't want to live with you." I'm not trying to present the sisters as perfect, noble characters - rather as two siblings with a terrible relationship who are trying to fix things between themselves first and foremost. They're still quite young, after all, and they might make different decisions in the future.
NUMBAAAH THREEEEE
it’s the tragedy girls!!!! they a little traumatized but that’s ok <3
dustfeather!! i hate her immensely
awww blacknose :(
oh they going together!!
OH SHIT A CAR
OH SHIT A LOVE INTEREST. the pussyplum has just sunk before my eyes. can’t believe gay people r real tho
god plumstripe becoming a silly goober out of love is incredible. love beeface being an incredible wingman on accident
even though i am sadly beeface’s biggest hater i love how both her and her sister got a happy ending. good for them good for them
Thank you so much but how dare you mention pussyplum on the blog itself. Criminal activity.
To me, Plumstripe has always been someone who puts on an air of malaise and disaffectedness that covers up a very insecure, wibbly inner self. If you know how to get through to her core she's very easy to fluster and charm. For all her bluster, Beeface is a lot more solid and steadfast, haha.
With both of them I really wanted to dig into the reality of "mean people" getting "happy endings". It happens all the time in real life, and it's something most of us have to learn to live with. So you take the steps you can to set your own boundaries and cut out whoever you need, but it's hard on you to spend your time holding onto resentment.
"A Dream, A Nightmare"
I told you Plumstripe being bisexual would be relevant eventually!
I've been excited to write the end of Beeface and Plumstripe's stories. I always meant for both of them to get a redemption arc, although their behavior in the middle of the story got away from me a little and they ended up being more abusive than I had originally intended. I don't mind it, though; it opened up interesting avenues for my storytelling and I like where it landed them in the end. It's interesting to explore characters who behave extremely terribly for not very good reasons, but actually regret their behavior and want to grow from it. I'm also really fond of Eberhart's design, it's one of my favorites from the comic as a whole.
The title quote is taken from Fredric Brown's story "Arena": “Was this a dream, a nightmare? This heat, this sand, that vague feeling of horror he felt when he looked toward the red thing?”
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