not anything against you but it's telling you can just untagged unhidden un-anything all the cr3 hate but you need a trillion anti cr2 trigger tags so people aren't in your replies crying about BUT THE PACING of c3
lmao I was thinking that exact thing when I was stressing about how to present my thoughts there lmao
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what do you think about campaign 2? is there anything it does better than campaign 3, and vice versa is there anything campaign 3 does better than it?
Interesting question! Gonna put the answer under a readmore since it'll probably get long and also bc my feelings on cr2 aren't all that positive so superfans of that campaign have a heads up to keep scrolling
So, I'm just gonna be completely honest up front and say I never finished cr2 so my judgement is gonna be very flawed. At the time I was younger and very caught up with the toxic positivity aspect of this fandom, so I stamped down basically every issue I had until it all spilled over and I was left feeling so negative about it I had to go complete cr cold turkey until tlovm aired.
I know that's oversharing, but I just don't feel right commenting on cr2 without being upfront about how my personal feelings on it come from a weird place. I try to be more objective about it these days, but I'm afraid I'm not entirely objective.
Anyway cr2 and cr3 are really two entirely different kinds of stories. The former I consider to be most like an open-world video game, while the latter is more like an ongoing comic book. It's hard to tell which one does things better because they're not really doing the same thing at all
In terms of pacing they both struggle in opposite directions. Cr3 has had too much going on for a long time with very little breathing room while cr2 was 90% filler. We haven't had balanced pacing since cr1 so for these two it's more about what you personally prefer. For me the difference would be determined by my connection to the characters.
Which brings me to the characters. This is of course the most subjective thing of them all. I'm not going to pretend I don't prefer the Bells Hells by a mile, but there is also a reason the Mighty Nein are so popular on social media. It's the party of NPC's vs the Be Gay Do Crimes party. The latter may has well have been built in a lab for tumblr queers. Hell it's what drew me to the show in the first place.
I think cr2 was more experimental for most cast members, with them really going outside their comfort zone(Travis playing a more serious character, Liam going more morally questionable, Travis and Ashley dipping into romance) and the results really resonated with a lot of people. Personally I struggled with most of the party for a few reasons. What they were trying didn't suit me, Ashley being gone for most of the early days, a party member dying before they could really get started, etc.
With cr3, I think it's clear they took the lessons they learned from the past 2 campaigns and really played into their strenghts while still exploring new ground. The fact that the players have lived in Exandria for so long now also allows them to craft backstories more tailored to the world around them which gives them a very unique feel. I also personally just find myself resonating more with the themes they chose to explore.
Honestly I could do a whole breakdown of each character and which ones I think work best for their campaigns but this is getting long enough so I won't.
Cr2 did spend more time digging into characters backstories but for me that had the massive downside of the gap between which characters got focus being incredibly blatant. I know people like to complain about main character Imogen, but that's nothing compared to how badly cr2 sucked at balancing narrative focus amongst the party.
That's not say I'm not bothered by cr3 not taking more time to explore things specific to the pc's backstories, but with the way most of them are tied to the main plot it still works. I do think it does a much better job at balancing focus, even if Imogen obviously has the strongest plot connection.
And finally, I think cr2 is best at being a more typical found family fantasy experience(cr1 is too but a very different flavor) in that you have a bunch of assholes slowly learning how to trust each other and help each other face their demons. The bond between the Hells is just as believable and more compelling to me personally, but it is not gonna scratch the itch a lot of people are looking to scratch with an actual play show.
What cr3 excells at is deconstructing tropes, posing ethical dillemas, really making you think about the world the story takes place in and considering different point of views. This is why so many long-term fans struggle with it so much. It's also why I think, especially if all 3 campaigns get adapted, cr3 will be the most memorable one with the biggest impact.
Ben de laatste tijd zo nostalgisch voor winx club, jouw blog maakt me helemaal blij
aw, dat is fijn om the horen! Met zoiets als dit is het toch het leukst om de vertaling waar je mee bent opgegroeid te zien. Vandaar dat ik daar veel op focus hier, en ik ben heel blij dat andere Nederlanders er ook wat aan hebben
Douglas is Cancelled might be the ballsiest show ever for setting itself up to be hated just so it can prove its own points (and to get idiot people to watch it specifically to say ‘this is about you actually’) and I loved it. Watched it in one sitting which is probably the intention since it was supposed to be a stage play. One of the best shows of the year I’m so serious.
see that's the impression I was starting to get so this just sold me on it
I think I know what I'll be binging in the next few days
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You mentioned something about fantasy politics and Dragon Age, could you explain what you mean by that? I'm not familiar with Dragon age, Mass effect, of their fandoms?
Basically, when you have a fictional universe that has any level of complexity, you're also going to have fictional politics. Depending on the nature of the conflicts and issues present in this world, there will also be an active discussion surrounding them in the fandom
These discussions can quickly become very heated. Often because of lack of sensitivity from the writers when it comes to where they drew inspiration from, from fans projecting to heavily onto one group, or from lack of nuance and the urge to view everything as a direct mirror for our world. Most commonly it's a mix of all three
Using bioware games, which have an especially fired up fandom about this, as an example: People get very angry at humans being "space racist" in Mass Effect, while overlooking the nuances of the political climate in-universe where humans are very much not the in power group at all. People overidentifying with mages in Dragon Age as an allegory for queer people, and getting personally offended when the story even tries exploring nuance there. Elves also in Dragon Age drawing a little too much inspiration from real-life hardships, which makes for a very unfortunate situation all around, and again can cause a very strong emotional response to story developments and plot twists as the line between real and fiction becomes blurred
World of Warcraft falls into the same icky area as a lot of fantasy at the time of its creation(and even now) in that it borrows from non-white cultures for its monster races. On top of that, so much of its premise comes from retroactively adding nuance to an 80's "evil invading orcs" game. That's not even to mention how, because of its mmorpg nature, so many story decisions are based around gameplay(keeping pvp relevant, giving players for both factions a reason to feel like heroes) rather than having a well thought-out narrative
I don't need to interact with the fandom to know it's a tirefire, and while there are certainly plenty of things worth debating, I'm never gonna have a good time doing that in a reactive fandom environment(I'm more likely to discuss it among friens), and ultimately I'm just here to enjoy a video game and prefer to engage with the story as it is, and focus on the elements of it that bring me joy
Did you play any of the Cataclysm starting quests?
For Tauren or in general?
For Tauren I played a teensy little bit until I hit level 10 because I wanted to get a feel for druids before making a Kul Tiran one(turns out I suck at druids), and left the rest for once I finish up wotlk
In general I've done Worgen(favorite race. wanted one for Dragonflight), Dranei(is just the same as classic I think), Night Elf(before timewalking tbc and wrath), Human (including Redridge and Westfall in case I needed to be exalted with Stormwind for the heritage armor quest), and Orc(up until somewhere in the Barrens for the same reason)
Just like with classic I would like to do them all at some point
Hi! i saw your tags on my post about caduceus in c3 versus c2 and i COMPLETELY agree with you, that mirrors my own feelings on his character (i also went thru a "you must love them all" phase but could never gel with cad the way i wanted to). that's the reason i made the post--c3's current storyline would have vastly improved his character for me! it's nice to know other people feel the same 👍
I'm really glad you see it that way too!! I was a lil worried about putting negativity on someone else's post, but it just really opened my eyes to the kind of character Cad could have been had he been in a campaign that suited his needs a bit more. Galaxy brain take you made there