No no you should say it, what's the overly cited video essay
I don't think this is a particularly hot take or anything, but I don't care for Night Mind's Marble Hornets Explained videos. There's probably nothing wrong with them, though I'd have no way of knowing tbh because I've never sat down and watched through them all - I tried a few times when they were new, but the presentation and vibes just sorta...rubbed me the wrong way in a way that I don't think I can articulate properly without sounding like an asshole lol.
The reason it's the first thing I thought of when I saw that post is the whole "Seth is the third member of ToTheArk" thing. To be clear, that theory was by no means new when those videos came out; it's a theory that's been floating around for longer than I'd even been in the MH fandom, and is perfectly valid (and interesting/fun to explore!), it's just not a theory that I personally subscribe to.
What I don't like is seeing that theory (and a few other things that I'm like 90% sure came from those videos, but it's definitely the one I see most commonly) seemingly being treated as canon by an alarming number of people who don't seem to realize that it's...not? MH has always had a great many things that are left somewhat ambiguous/open to interpretation, and it sorta grinds my gears to see this one possible interpretation so widely proliferated and treated as a cold hard fact just cause some guy on youtube said so. (Of course, I think part of the problem might also be the way the info is presented in the video more or less as a fact (from what I recall anyway), but I digress.)
granted this might also all be ancient history that people have moved on from by this point, idk I haven't peeked into the MH tag in a while lol
Like! Interpretation is the whole point! Idk idk there's no "wrong way" to enjoy things, you know if someone's having fun then more power to them whatever, but just in general I really feel like it's important for new fans of a thing to engage with the actual show/movie/whatever itself first and foremost, so they can form their own thoughts and conclusions rather than y'know. Finishing the thing and then immediately jumping over to "[Media] EXPLAINED!!!1!" (or using it as a starting point???) and basing their entire opinion on what some rando has to say about it instead.
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would love to hear any/all of your thoughts on reintegrated mark as a character
trying to imagine mark^2 pov experience... obsessed w the character concepts possible as someone who showed up to severance for the scifi/speculative fiction aspects n then got into the rest of it too
(ps. award for "most exciting use of middle-aligned text"... crazy to gasp at formating; black mile is for real the most exciting ao3 update email to get)
I really wish I had more coherent thoughts that I could articulate about reintegrated Mark, but unfortunately most of it is just pure Vibes so please forgive me for how meandering and rambly this is
(I'm also sorry that so much of my rambling about this is also kinda rambling about my own fic, but it's sort of inextricable for me because there are obviously a whole lot of my own headcanons and ideas about reintegration woven throughout)
Like from a purely canon standpoint, speculatively (though tbh I personally don't really like speculating about future seasons, I mostly enjoy experiencing the show as it happens rather than coming up with my own theories), it does feel incredibly likely to me that Mark will become fully reintegrated at some point in the series, at least if the endpoint of the show wants to be anything resembling a "happy ending", because that's been presented (so far) as pretty much the only way that Mark S. ever gets to become a full person, i.e. live an actual life as opposed to being trapped inside of Lumon/some other severed space for the rest of his existence.
AND YET
As I've sorta touched on in A Black Mile to the Surface (thank you for the kind words btw I have been losing my mind over them all day), the whole idea of combining your entire being with someone else is. Also not really the same as becoming a full person? Like, a fully reintegrated Mark would be a different character than either of the Marks that we've known up to this point, which is a super interesting concept in itself, but tbh I've also sorta grown pretty attached to the Marks that we've got as they are lol.
And I'm super curious about whether outie Mark has even really considered what reintegration would do to him - like, not the physical almost-killing-him stuff, but how it would fundamentally change his identity. Petey describes it as "having two different lives suddenly stitched together, but the relativity's fucked", i.e. his first day at Lumon is as far back in his memory as his fifth birthday.
Despite hearing that, I think Mark (both Marks, in fact! that's explicitly why innie Mark is hesitant about the idea in their cabin conversation) has maybe unconsciously made the assumption that reintegration would just place his innie's Lumon memories neatly into his existing memory where the blank spots are right now, but that's clearly not how it works. It's not just filling in the gaps, it's fully combining with an entirely new identity that has developed independently from his existing identity, which is bound to affect both of them in very profound and unexpected ways!!
Thus this entire fucking philosophical question in the series of, if you become a different version of yourself, are you still you? And if not, who are you? To quote the great Ricken Hale, "what, indeed, is you?" What makes you who you are? It doesn't just apply to severing yourself, but to un-severing too!! If you take a part of you that has been excised from the rest and stitch it back into the fabric of you, it's not going to fit neatly!! Because who you are is constantly changing and growing, and so is that other version of you!! It's going to be messy and complicated and hard to parse (I think that's probably part of why Petey didn't survive it tbh)!!
Thus, "wouldn’t becoming a new person be a kind of death in itself?"
And okay this is going to be even more incoherent than the rest of this, but there's a two-parter episode of Doctor Who (Human Nature/The Family of Blood) that I watched earlier this year, which shouldn't really have made me think of Severance but everything does at this point. The whole conceit is that the Doctor has basically given himself amnesia in order to live as a human (named John Smith of course) in the early 20th century. As the plot progresses, and John Smith starts to learn what's really going on here, he freaks out because everyone needs him to turn back into the Doctor to save the day, but he doesn't want to turn back! He has his own life and his own memories and he likes who he is, and if he recovers all his memories he won't be himself anymore! Even if he still remembers being John Smith, he won't be. He accurately compares it to dying, because that's essentially what it would be for him. Of course he doesn't really have a choice, because this is Doctor Who and he is the Doctor, so by the end of the second episode, obviously he's recovered his memories and saved the day, and he says something to the effect of "John Smith is still in here somewhere", but like?? He's not! That man just doesn't exist anymore!! Even if his memories are still in there, he isn't, because the person he was has been changed beyond recognition!!
This is what I'm talking about when I say reintegrating is a kind of death!! This is what outie Mark finally begins to understand in the most recent chapter of Black Mile (even though innie Mark has been saying it since basically the beginning), and this is why he starts to realize that maybe he doesn't actually want to reintegrate, because he will become someone new, someone who is sort of him but not really him.
This is also why I don't really love treating the idea of reintegration as a nice neat solution to all the messy problems that severance creates. The whole situation is so complicated and there's no one right answer that can fix everything, and that's the whole point.
I don't have a coherent conclusion to draw from all this or anything, I just have thought about all of this way too much in the process of writing Black Mile and its inevitable sequel so thank you for giving me the chance to word-vomit this stream of consciousness nonsense at you!!
no exactly daddy dom mark s still makes no sense to me no matter what angle i look at it. honestly daddy dom mark scout doesn’t make any sense to me either. i simply do not see what other people see i guess
THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING like far be it from me to tell anyone how to headcanon their blorbos or whatever, but I just Do Not Understand where this one in particular came from and why it seems to be so popular (or at least popular enough for me to have noticed it as a thing lol)
⭐️ for Black Mile to the Surface? (or if applicable ⭐ for a WIP you have rn)
I'm always dying for an opportunity to talk about the minutiae of this fic, and then when a wonderful person actually asks, all the thoughts in my head turn to white noise. HM.
I guess I can talk about "deleted scenes" a bit mayhaps?
So, fun fact, the specifics around iMark and Helly getting to meet up and talk (chapters 17/18) changed drastically from the initial idea to the final fic. Initially, the idea was that Mark would be escorted to MDR, for just a single conversation to serve as his "birthday present". This would be when we would get a little insight into what's been going on in MDR ever since Cold Harbor - the locked doors, the single desk, and of course Thorne standing guard the whole time to keep either of them from trying to escape (probably unnecessary, given the locked doors, and yet). Of course, iMark knows by this point that there's a camera/probably microphone in the computer monitor, so they go into the bathroom to talk, where he turns on all the faucets to drown out their voices and they still sorta whisper just in case (obv this concept at least did end up in the final thing!).
I really liked the idea of oMark getting to actually see MDR with his own eyes, but the scene just didn't really make sense - if Mark's getting escorted from the testing floor to the severed floor, then realistically it would be absolutely ridiculous for him to not just kinda kick Thorne in the dick and make a run for it as soon as they reach the severed floor, since at that point he's basically already halfway to the stairwell. If he's going to die literally the next day, then it's not like he has anything to lose.
OH and another deleted/changed scene that I just remembered!! Initially, Mark's plan to remove the doorknob from the door with the letter opener on his final night was fully going to work, inasmuch as he would be able to get the doorknob off. This idea went through a few iterations - I think at first, it fully worked, he managed to get out of the room and sneak around the testing floor in the dark to try and get out, but I didn't really know where to go from there lol.
That later evolved into it not actually being enough to open the door - he would end up breaking the knob somewhat in the process of removing it, so he couldn't put it back on, but he still couldn't get out. So that night, he just sorta doesn't sleep, just sorta sits on the couch and waits for shit to hit the fan; Mauer shows up in the morning and doesn't comment on the door, at least not initially, but just tells Mark to go get dressed (in what would be the Cold Harbor outfit), because they have a lot to talk about, don't they? And Mark, who has been holding this detached doorknob in his hands and fidgeting with it the whole time, sets it down on the table nearby with a very loud clunk and "yeah, I guess we do" - and then most of the conversation that happens in the Cold Harbor room in chapter 19 of the final fic happens here instead. I think my initial plan here also was that Mark would actually be taking Mauer hostage for his escape attempt rather than Helena, but obviously I think it's a lot more interesting the way it ended up instead!!
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more specific response later after I ruminate, but
🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️DEVON CHAPTER!!!!!!!!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
your devon pov is so good. would love to hear any process details about the chapter or other recent progress that youre interested in sharing
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YAYYY THANK YOU SO MUCH I'm glad you like it!!! I love Devon so so much and writing her is so fun aaaaaaaa
I don't have much in the way of process details (at least none that are interesting lol), but I will say there's a thing implied in this chapter which I thought would be incredibly obvious but which is, based on the feedback I'm getting, not in fact all that obvious so WHOOPS.
The guy in the flashback is meant to be Mauer - I fear I did not write him creepy enough and/or make it clear enough that he was wearing a "disguise" (fake moustache). I think I've been working on this thing too long and sorta forgot that things that have been "canon" to the fic(s) inside MY head for months are not, in fact, going to come across clearly if I do not write them clearly enough lol.
It is entirely my fault obv, I already knew that he was going to (had already?) attend(ed) the funeral back when I was still writing the last few chapters of Black Mile, thus why he mentions meeting Devon (and also the funeral) in his lil villain monologue, but I have realized too late that he doesn't explicitly mention that meeting being AT the funeral, so. Whoops. (Idk I may go back and edit that little section in the latest chapter to make it a bit clearer which I may have already done very slightly since posting shh)
I've been watching Person of Interest recently, and my mom randomly told me a couple weeks ago that one of the characters (his name is Finch btw) is the same actor as one of the characters in LOST and that she was afraid of him for a long time because of it.
After I'm done watching POI, should I get into LOST? 👀 I'm very curious. I originally came here for the Severance, but I remembered seeing you were into LOST! so I figured I should ask someone who was into it lol
Yes! He's one of the most interesting characters in Lost imo, though he doesn't show up until the second season. I definitely recommend the show especially if you find the sorta mystery-adjacent stuff in Severance interesting!