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They edited all members with billion icon. Can only laugh at them armys. And that's what Iam doing these days, just have a good laugh and ignore afterwards.

They tried same after LC got hot100 1 . Only Jk got it but we know that's not all cause of them. But anyway let them keep trying to make all Jimin's records ot7. I'll just laugh and move.

Was it what happened with J!m!n and F@CE that got us out of the OT7 utopia “seven exact and equal slices of the pie” for each member? I expected to see differences, problems or competitions during this stage but I feel that F@CE was a before and after, at least for me. Now, I could yell at my "me" from the last concert in Bus@n, how naive and overly positive I was being.

I understand the factors that made this reality. I don't know the internal agreements between them and their company. For me Jungk00k's debut only shed more light on topic (he's not the villain of the story, blaming him is just easy way out) Family = seven = equal. Wasn't that the driven narrative? From my place I see how the members go out of their way to demonstrate healthy competition among themselves but the label does not accompany them with their actions/decisions. Actions that make me see company as inexperienced. Did they really have no way to avoid these conflicts? Shouldn't they take care of every detail of career of the artists they represent?

This has nothing to do with the decisions of each member. Some armys force too much -members decide everything- speech and frankly to me it feels like a re-victimization and the removal of responsibility from their representatives. Even if we look at this as a team it seems like someone isn't doing their part. May I disagree? I'm a different person. If everyone says that BH is a great company, I will tell them that it should be even better. The company where my father works has often not fulfilled its duties as an employer, but he will tell you that it's the best job, and I proceed to respect it. Just like that i feel

Whose responsibility is it really that everything has gotten to this point? From company and its silences, from fandom that allowed solo stans to grow, from everyone? Is it just the natural course of things?

There is something in this chapter that gives me the feeling of improvisation. Or was I just too used to everything being calculated and perfect in the B/T/S world?

If you had to give a prognosis for the next chapter, what would it be?

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“Family = seven = equal. Wasn't that the driven narrative?”

No, actually.

Listen, I hear you and I get you completely. OT7 literally means love the members equally right? And that’s the agenda the company has been pushing and should show right? Well, not exactly. What I’m about to say is going to be very unpopular, but it’s genuinely what I think.

People have a very narrow idea of how many things can look, and when they run up against a reality that looks very different from how they expected it, many people don’t know how to deal with that very well. And oftentimes what happens is that they turn to vilifying whoever they think is responsible for preventing them from getting that imagined outcome. It never once crosses their minds that maybe they had the wrong assumptions to begin with. It’s always the thought of maybe someone is gaslighting them, rather than, you know, maybe they were just wrong. For that context and for that group’s actual goals.

There’s one post I wrote a long time ago that I think made me fairly popular with Jimin biases here, it’s the one where I talk about some of the ways Jimin contributed to BTS that might not seem obvious at first. I prefaced that post by saying many in the fandom underestimate Jimin not because they dislike him or anything, but because they have a narrow idea of what ‘meaningful contribution’ looks like for a group like BTS. All I did in that post was point out things that perhaps were not framed in the right way to show how much Jimin contributes to BTS that’s more than songwriting, producing, or others. It’s the same thinking in recognizing that while SeokJin isn’t the strongest dancer or vocalist, he’s served as the stable emotional support in the group, he serves as the key hinge in maintaining the uniformity in their choreography, and that without him in the group, the members would certainly clash very destructively. It’s not ‘equal contribution’ in the way a lot of people envision, but I think it’s perfect for BTS.

Granted all I’ve said so far is in terms of contributions, not rewards which is what you’re talking about. You’re saying the company should facilitate things so that each member is meant to get equal rewards each time. Well, that would be dandy and possible for the company. Maybe. But it’s also not weird, bad, nor does is spell sabotage for a company to allocate different resources and use different strategies after consulting with the members for their direct input, and to pursue asymmetrical results for BTS at certain times. The understanding is each member prioritized will vary in different years and eras. And I’m personally looking forward to all of it. Since July 2022, all the members have put forward a good first step with their debuts. Jungkook is the member getting a solid push now and I love that it’s him. I’m secretly hoping he tours a bit too, maybe solo or with vmin, and maybe/not go to the military before 2025. Who knows?

A lot of things didn’t work right for all the members' debuts. Jimin’s performance was impacted by far too many though, and many were issues the company simply needs to get their shit together on. Period. BTS makes a shit tonne of money for that company and the least they could do is go the extra mile and then some. I’m convinced HYBE already does this for BTS (recall how HYBE navigated extracting BTS from that Jamboree concert disaster, though public opinion was also on their side), but they could always do more. And I won’t stop anyone from saying that.

But for anyone who thinks what they’ve seen so far is Jungkook / BTS / HYBE betraying their trust or going back on their principles or whatever, I want to say that they’ve done no such thing. This time around your bias wasn’t prioritized the way you wanted. That’s it. Am I being naive and delusional by thinking the guys are literally taking turns for this kind of focus? Possibly. But I also know there’s a Pharrell collab somewhere in the vault. Rina Sawayama too (her Le Sserafim remix is really good. Please listen to it). And that the guys have very grand plans. All of them. They’re focused and driven and will always get what they ultimately want. Every member is like this. They've put too much skin in the game to walk away for less.

Or lol, maybe I'm just being a company stan. I just hope it's clear I'm not dismissing your concern or care for Jimin, Anon, it's that I disagree with your conclusion. But I know I'm in the minority here anyway.

“Whose responsibility is it really that everything has gotten to this point? “

The fandom, mostly. For reasons that are very obvious. Such as most of the fandom claiming they actually like the whole group and trust their bias, but rather kinda see the other members as background characters for their bias. Fandom is like a pressure cooker, so nobody ever really stays 'normal' if they move too far off-center - people who heavily biases a member in an unhealthy way will never remain an ARMY, for example, they’ll eventually break off into fringe parts; people who dislike a member, only grow to further hate the member. Neutral is rare.

If BigHit wanted to make another try for a Grammy this year, Seven would’ve likely been envisioned with all the members as a project to pursue, because a win for any of them is considered a win for the group. Especially considering the competition this year. And given BH already had a formula with the PET, they went with that same mediocre candy floss of a song that’s guaranteed to get the nomination chances, as in the past. Experience has taught the company Korean tracks will likely not be given fair consideration soon. So they went with Seven. Also, after that Billboard hit piece, Jimin’s chances with Like Crazy are close to zilch. If by some miracle he gets recognition, I hope he wins. But yeah, that debacle with Jimin is one in which the fandom (meaning his akgaes, biases, and the wider/whole fandom) bears some blame. But at the same time, Billboard has never been a friend to BTS and they were likely going to change the rules again anyway. And that’s something they can keep doing.

"If you had to give a prognosis for the next chapter, what would it be?"

I have no real idea, tbh. What I want more than anything, is for all seven of them to be able to continue putting out dope, interesting music that they take joy in. Seeing Bangtan have fun has extended my life by several years I'm sure. That's what I want for them in the prognosis. I'm sorry I'm taking your ask about a serious topic and going all sentimental on it Anon, but rather than chart placements that they don't really need to prove, I want BTS to still be comfortable making the music they want to make. More Arson, Dis-ease, All Day, Change Pt 2, Snooze, HUH?!, Amygdala, Like Crazy, SMF Pt 2, Rainy Days, Seven, The Astronaut.

I hope the people who remain in the fandom core are able to last and tough it out while the fandom regroups. Because even though there'll be chaos and the number of solos will likely triple, they won't ever leave. Nobody who comes in contact with BTS ever really moves on from them. They'll say they're taking breaks, calling it quits or whatever, but give them 6 months tops and they're back. I see it happen all the time. And it makes sense tbh. I mean, have you seen Jimin? After knowing someone like him exists, how can you just go back to your regular life pretending he's not real? Like his existence doesn't mandate you looking at him and caring for him and his art. At least, that's how Jimin makes me feel. And the other members to varying degrees.

The Habit of Hating in our fandom and spiritual laws

I still intend to share thoughts about AYS but in the meantime I want to speak about certain habits especially on twitter that many people have when it comes to hate, defending your ideas, defending the boys, in relation to the spiritual laws of the universe.

This discussion was triggered by this tweet:

The line that is concerning is this one:

"Asks the religious people to pray for their downfall"

This statement is so wrong on so many levels, but it is also a symptom of a broader attitude in this fandom towards people we don't like, we don't agree with.

I want to preface this by informing you (if you are not familiar with spirituality and how the universe works) that the name of the game is Unconditional love.

Your true being at the core comes from love, is made of love, and comes to earth to see if it can still choose love even in a very constricting environnement and situations.

When we'll die no one will be judging us but us and we willl be comparing all of our choices with unconditionnal love. How did we love? Did we choose love or fear? Even when a crazy woman on the street is yelling at us?

You see so love is the go-to, is the stateline for us even coming here in the first place.

I am not saying it is not hard to choose love, especially with people full of hate making a large amount of damage to people's mental health.

Praying for someone's downfall do you think this is love? Praying if done correctly (and if you want the higher power to be at the other end of that prayer) needs to come from love. You can't pray for something bad to happen to someone. I mean YOU CAN. But then who is gonna answer? Not God. And then since it is not aligned to love you will go through the automatic balancing cause and effect from the universe, and will have karma from it.

Karma is not a form of punishement. It's something we go through willingly, because we simply see who we are as consciousness, we see "oh I am capable of this" "Oh I can inflict that much pain" so then you want to learn because you see for yourself it is not the best, it is not love. So you sign up to experience something that will make you learn the lesson properly. Maybe you'll be at the other end of the hate.

In any case, I want to say, when people are throwing hate at the boys, at you, at a cause you hold dear, please stop saying stuff like "I wish you die" "I wish you go rot in hell" or even "I wish you step on the lego" come on people.

People think because they are right, because their cause is just, they think they are the good people in the equation.

But if you think you need to combat hate with even more hate, wishing harm on people you disagree with, are you, really?

Or are you no better than them?

You know, people filled with judgement, with anger, ready to cause harm and destroy, the hate you throw at them will never stop them. People with belief in separation are soooo into their illusion there is nothing you could say that will make them stop.

I want to point to you the fact that this person you dispise, you don't agree with, it's YOU. It is another version of you.

Your consciousness and their consciousness is made of the same thing. You are two parts of the same whole.

Maybe you have different personalities, stories, traumas, level of consciousness, but basically you ARE the same.

Why would you hate yourself? Wish harm on yourself?

This person isn't hateful because they are evil. There is no evil, the only evil is the belief in separation with others, and the lack of love. They hate because they lack love. Their hate comes from a fear, and a fear stems from buying into a false perception that is not aligned with love and union.

They believe they are separate from you, separate from bts, so there comes judgement, there comes me versus them.

Many people will absolutely never know the people they hate is another version of them. They will live their lives like this and nobody can change it. Because everybody is at their own stage of evolution of consciousness.

Your own consciousness is in their shoes somewhere in the universe, having the same things to overcome.

Don't judge the hater so harshly, there are many things you don't know about them, about their life, about their lack of love, about their state of evolution as consciousness.

I am not saying what they do is not wrong, that we must do nothing. That's not it.

The loving choice is not to wish them harm though, or to fight them with more hate.

Sometimes it is to use the tools we have, to block them, to stand our ground, to explain our point of view in a respectful manner. Sometimes it is to ignore them. To not give them voice. Or sometimes to expose them. It is to put boundaries in a firm way but not a destructive one.

I know there is a fine line between the two, you must question yourself what is the best thing to do in any situation. Your little voice, your intuition knows what is best. When you do something wrong you know it deep down. Trust that voice, trust yourself to know.

But the thing is, the only way to fight evil is with love.

You see, when you are spreading love in your life, into the world, with people you know, you come accross, you smile at, you are raising your frequency, your consciousness, and it creates ripple effects around you.

You can smile at someone in the street and it can have an impact as far as touching a man deep into a foreign country miles away.

Love and everything you do is THAT powerful.

These ripple effects is why we incarnate. And when we choose love, our own frequency of consciousness raises, and since we are all connected on a subconscious level, we raise the consciousness of the whole collective.

If you are alone in your room and don't go out for weeks but one instant you choose to give yourself love, you don't even have to do anything else, you are ALREADY HELPING EVERYBODY.

It matters a lot you see, everything you do.

BTS themselves created a monstruous gigantic ripple effect on earth with their love yourself campaign and who they are as individuals.

Take their example.

What I am writing can seem all mushy mushy but love does not mean being a doormat, it does not mean being all lovey-dovey all the time. Sometimes the loving choice is telling someone they fucked up. Sometimes it is simply not allowing this person's toxic energy to be in your life. Because self-love is also important.

You must find your own compass into knowing what is the loving thing to do in any given situation.

But please people I am begging you to stop wishing harm on other people you disagree with. You will not help anybody. You are only hurting yourself.

"We are good and they are evil"

No.

Nobody is good, and nobody is evil, we have all both light and dark inside.

You are no better than them, we are all in the same boat.

Not passing judgement is hard I know, but if you can see them with love, you would understand they are like toddlers who have no clue what the hell they are doing. They are like children, and so are you. How can you blame a child for falling down? Or doing something bad?

I don't want to tell you how to respond to them, you must find your own answers.

But please be a little more mindful how you talk and react to these people. Because EVERYTHING you do matters.

The haters will always be there no matter what because we live in a reality of separation, duality, but the BEST THING you can do is to be love instead in your lives in any way you can be with all that what love means. With kindness, compassion, bravery, honesty, forgiveness, authenticity and also love for yourself! Having boudaries and knowing when to say no!

I know I went on a long tengeant but I see so many terrible things on social media and people are so careless with their words and actions.

Be mindful and ask yourselves the right questions before answering and interacting with haters.

If you choose to be love in your own life, you are already doing the right thing.

Hope this helps give some insights into the higher perspectives,

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